# Burner proving grounds as a replacement/relaunch for the old 1v1 arena at the end of abyssal sites **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [July 26, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913 "2020-07-26T09:11:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/21 "2020-11-01T16:11:46Z")
> [@TheCorrupted](#): > > From my view, define arena for pit#1 and pit#2 is EASY, not much DEV. It would also take me wonder how they did the halloween environment. Here again, new graphics had to be added. ---
**Author:** ![grimaxemorpher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grimaxemorpher/32/393346_2.png) [@grimaxemorpher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/grimaxemorpher)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/22 "2020-11-06T23:19:36Z")
yes this I loved the old proving grounds but theese new ones dont last long enough ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/23 "2020-11-10T07:03:37Z")
yeah, there was nearly a month gap between the last event of quadrant 3 and the crimson harvest one. ---
**Author:** ![Miezmiez\_die\_Katze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miezmiez_die_katze/32/240744_2.png) [@Miezmiez\_die\_Katze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miezmiez_die_Katze)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/24 "2020-11-15T13:18:00Z")
just saw someone posting the link of your thread somewhere, I fully support that ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/25 "2020-11-20T06:53:21Z")
by the way, ressource wars are gone too now ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Abyssal\_Hawk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyssal_hawk/32/340421_2.png) [@Abyssal\_Hawk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyssal_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/26 "2020-11-25T12:29:01Z")
By the way, I have updated the main post after rethinking the system a bit. After having seen the things happening in the events(collusion/mass queuing with alts), I came to the conclusion, that this system would better be accessible throught the old way(i.E. At the end of tier 3 abyssal sites and higher, maybe exclude tier 6). As we have seen with all the events, population decreases shortly after start, and so it will when this gets introduced. This means, that it can become very lucrative to farm with alts. As you always enter the arena and don’t enter a queue, it is very easy to match yourself up against your alts. CCP banned this from the events, but having controll in my system on that is very difficult. Either you enter this arena by the same way as the events, but this ends up with horrible long queue times or you enter it directly and wait inside for an opponent, which is better as it can be expected that not that many people will do them. Another thing some people don’t get, is that the idea is not to remove the new events at all, it is to **have both the events and the old arena.** I have heard from some people that never did the old arena, that want it back too. Others say that there was really no point at all in removing them. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/27 "2020-12-03T15:46:28Z")
> [@Abyssal\_Hawk](#): > > I have heard from some people that never did the old arena, that want it back too. Others say that there was really no point at all in removing them. I can confirm that, after the crimson harvest ffa thing I talked with some players, all want the old arena back ---
**Author:** ![Issues\_with\_Videocard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issues_with_videocard/32/247386_2.png) [@Issues\_with\_Videocard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issues_with_Videocard)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/28 "2020-12-21T15:43:04Z")
exactly same thought ---
**Author:** ![Malango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malango/32/386623_2.png) [@Malango](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malango)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/29 "2020-12-29T13:42:47Z")
I miss old proving. I stopped playing the day it closed. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/30 "2021-01-14T13:03:18Z")
Amount of players that want the old arena back is increasing, check out the poll that is linked above. ---
**Author:** ![Peresagruska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peresagruska/32/429010_2.png) [@Peresagruska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peresagruska)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/31 "2021-01-28T07:39:52Z")
+1 for bringing it back ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/32 "2021-02-28T09:03:41Z")
Torvald Uruz made a feedback channel in the Abyssal Lurkers Discord. I was the first to post there and I posted the old arena into the feedback. Lets hope that he brings that up to CCP as well. ---
**Author:** ![Abyssal\_Hawk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyssal_hawk/32/340421_2.png) [@Abyssal\_Hawk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyssal_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/33 "2021-03-17T16:43:31Z")
Yeah I saw, I also posted that with the old arena in there, but he seems to be focusing on PVE feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/34 "2021-04-10T08:43:37Z")
Well I keep posting the links to the old arena forum posts when I announce the datamined upcoming arena events on reddit ---
**Author:** ![A4443\_Suicide\_Gank](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a4443_suicide_gank/32/497629_2.png) [@A4443\_Suicide\_Gank](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A4443_Suicide_Gank)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/35 "2021-05-11T05:49:59Z")
+1 for bringing back the old arena! ---
**Author:** ![Serena\_Fonulique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serena_fonulique/32/273479_2.png) [@Serena\_Fonulique](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serena_Fonulique)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/36 "2021-05-17T16:01:14Z")
Hells yeah I want the old 1vs1 back. I was nowhere near being a top dog but that was the best PVP I ever had. No BLOPSing, no one dropping supers on you, no collusion and after the Brawl update so many ships were viable, it was hella fun. Those new arenas are basically hidden isk sinks with solved metas after a few hours. Rather boring content imo. ---
**Author:** ![Mattatron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mattatron/32/274436_2.png) [@Mattatron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mattatron)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/37 "2021-05-22T14:29:38Z")
I would really like to see these some back. they were much more fun. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/38 "2021-06-09T15:34:18Z")
CCP does an old arena remember party on July 31 ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/39 "2021-07-14T15:53:12Z")
> [@The request to bring back the old arena is now officially one year old, happy birthday!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-request-to-bring-back-the-old-arena-is-now-officially-one-year-old-happy-birthday/319885): > > So its been exactly one year since the old arena has been removed and the request to bring it back emerged and the celebration is ongoing. To celebrate this day, I made this video and 4 lucky winners each win an Ikitursa and a Kikimora, also a bit of a compensation for US TZ players that I have negleced a bit for the celebration event. [[Eve online Abyssal PVP Arena 22 - Happy birthday, request to bring it back] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3y3WoULgC0) Anyway, the request to bring it back will still go on and we will not k… The request to bring back the old arena is now one year old ---
**Author:** ![Assaulten\_Battery](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/assaulten_battery/32/275740_2.png) [@Assaulten\_Battery](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Assaulten_Battery)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-proving-grounds-as-a-replacement-relaunch-for-the-old-1v1-arena-at-the-end-of-abyssal-sites/256913/40 "2021-07-23T14:36:09Z")
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