# Caldari Prime and the Legion contract **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692 "2018-08-09T19:30:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/1 "2018-08-09T19:30:05Z")
[Interesting news today from Caldari Prime](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/general-akuras-to-oversee-legion-forces-on-caldari-prime/), where we see a change in command of the Mordu’s Legion task force overseeing planetary security. Needless to say, the success of this contract has been a high point in recent years, and the successful joint administration of the planet seems to be remarkably sustainable. I’m certainly hoping the contract negotiation goes well, or at the very least a similarly mutually-agreeable security contractor may be identified if the Legion wishes to pivot toward more Upwell-oriented work. I’d have to say, though, that’d be a sad thing, given the mutually beneficial history between the Legion and Ishukone. ---
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/2 "2018-08-09T19:50:49Z")
That’s interesting…Unsure what else to say about it. I wonder what other contractors would be considered if the Legion isn’t available anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/3 "2018-08-09T19:58:42Z")
Agreed. I can’t think of an appropriate party, save perhaps a joint force with, say, Society oversight. ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/4 "2018-08-10T03:43:43Z")
Well. So much for a relaxing weekend in the hills with my family - instead I’m going to be running a Level 0 inventory of my hangars and making sure every ship larger than a destroyer has been warmed up and shaken down by Sunday night. Back onto 24 hour notice to deploy, I guess… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/5 "2018-08-10T04:15:00Z")
On behalf of Goonswarm and the Imperium, we’d like to welcome Strike Commander Tsuni Aina back to Pure Blind, and look forward to continued positive relations with the Legion presence from our facilities in O-N8XZ and our operations centers in ROIR-Y and X-7OMU. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/6 "2018-08-10T11:07:48Z")
Once Legion has been known for a peacekeeping force, fighting crime throughout the cluster. But really nobody who follows mercenary path can stay honorable. In the end, there’s little difference between pirates and mercenaries. And now we see how low the Legion has fallen. They have started with helping us against the Federal aggressors, but now they protect the Federal occupation on OUR homeworld. From peacekeepers to pets of occupants and aggressors. Shame to Mordu’s Legion. Shame. ---
**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/7 "2018-08-10T15:43:21Z")
Let’s see how much both sides grown up in the interval and how will they do without the babysitter watching them. Plus, what is the Legion coming up with to need their soldiers back in such a hurry? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/8 "2018-08-10T17:11:56Z")
You mean other than that thing where they’re heavily invested in Upwell, and the Serpentis don’t like that? Could be trouble brewing in Outer Ring. ---
**Author:** ![Utari\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/utari_onzo/32/378493_2.png) [@Utari\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Utari_Onzo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/9 "2018-08-10T19:28:59Z")
They fulfilled a contract they were hired to do by both sides, and are now reasonably looking to renegotiate as that contract ends. This seems entirely above board in keeping with basic business practice for a non-aligned group. I don’t think there’s any shame here. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/10 "2018-08-11T11:04:49Z")
> [@Utari\_Onzo](#): > > They fulfilled a contract they were hired to do by both sides, and are now reasonably looking to renegotiate as that contract ends. > > This seems entirely above board in keeping with basic business practice for a non-aligned group. I don’t think there’s any shame here. Their “contract” involves guarding aggressors forces on the oppressed planet. They betrayed the State by allowing gallenteans to stay on our Homeworld. As for the shame, I think I have to agree with you. After all, they are just disgusting mercenaries. They know no shame, no loyalty, no humanity, only money. ---
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/11 "2018-08-11T11:17:23Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Their “contract” involves guarding aggressors forces on the oppressed planet. They betrayed the State by allowing gallenteans to stay on our Homeworld. Pardon me if I’m wrong, but if the State is the one who asked them to do that in the first place, then it’s not treason. ---
**Author:** ![Utari\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/utari_onzo/32/378493_2.png) [@Utari\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Utari_Onzo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/12 "2018-08-11T11:18:45Z")
They also guarded Caldari from Gallenteans as part of the contract. ---
**Author:** ![Nahine\_Heluene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nahine_heluene/32/144750_2.png) [@Nahine\_Heluene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nahine_Heluene)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/13 "2018-08-11T20:22:44Z")
Getting real comfortable with Upwell, looks like. Essentially the conglomerate’s own PMC - a shrewd business decision if nothing else. Interesting times. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/14 "2018-08-11T20:30:10Z")
Well, they were [one of the founding partners](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/founding-of-upwell-consortium-announced-by-leading-interstellar-corporations/) for the consortium. Upwell’s success is their success, and the reverse. Admittedly, I’m not sure how contribution and profit-sharing operates within Upwell, but I can only imagine that the other parties are material contributors, even though we mostly see ORE as its face. ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/15 "2018-08-12T06:33:16Z")
It sounds to me like they’re in danger of losing their mobility and are becoming subsumed by Upwell entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/16 "2018-08-12T06:49:41Z")
Or after however many years, they’re tired of just being military and are looking to establish and alternative career path for their officers who want to get away from bloodshed for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Nahine\_Heluene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nahine_heluene/32/144750_2.png) [@Nahine\_Heluene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nahine_Heluene)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/17 "2018-08-12T07:12:54Z")
Hm, and wouldn’t _that_ be an unexpected conclusion to the Legion’s saga? ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/18 "2018-08-12T22:06:37Z")
Well they could certainly do worse than attach themselves to a large and profitable corporation, under those circumstances. At least from my, admittedly biaised, perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/19 "2018-08-13T07:16:35Z")
You mean do worse than be one of the principle founding members of a large and profitable _consortium_? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692/20 "2018-08-13T23:01:03Z")
Semantics. I agree with you - it could be a positive thing, indeed - at least if they don’t all end up dead! [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/caldari-prime-and-the-legion-contract/96692.md?page=2)