# Can capsuleers have sex and children? **URL:** \ **Category:** EVE Lore Discussion\ **Created:** [November 23, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527 "2018-11-23T19:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/43 "2018-11-24T21:43:34Z")
Having children through physical sex is so…below Alpha Clone status. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/44 "2018-11-24T22:32:48Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Why would a Capsuleer need to have physical sex? The sensation can be downloaded via an implant. Just because you prefer (or are limited to) sexual stimulation via digital means, doesn’t mean everyone wants to. > [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Children can be grown using Clone technology. That’s a clone, not a child. And in case you’re wondering… ![nowneitherofuswillbevirgins](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/d/dd05909517151706115418c46529a07520cafaf2.jpeg) This does not count as sex. ---
**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/45 "2018-11-25T00:16:29Z")
Sex yes. No children. If you are pregnant, you will not become an Capsuleers since you will not pass the tests. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/46 "2018-11-25T08:38:02Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Why would a Capsuleer need to have physical sex? The sensation can be downloaded via an implant. Dunno, maybe, I know this is far-fetched, but people might think physical sex with other actual bodies is FUN. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/47 "2018-11-25T08:46:57Z")
That’s why we collect corpses ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/48 "2018-11-25T08:47:30Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > sex with other actual bodies is FUN As someone who sold thousands of frozen corpses to lots of capsuleers for ~~personal~~ scientific use, I can confirm this fact. 💀 ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/49 "2018-11-25T09:24:41Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > > > Jump cloning “kills” the clone you jump from. So you would have to tube the baby at that point. On the other hand artificial wombs are an established and common technology at this stage in Eve. > > Then why do the implants persist? > Does someone give me free crystal implants when I jump to my slave set clone? _"So-called “jump cloning” works in much the same manner. Once a jump contract has been agreed upon, the customer can enter any cloning facility at any station, whereupon they will be brain-scanned, their originating bodies effectively flatlined, and their consciousness transferred to a waiting jump clone at their requested destination. Any implants in the originating body are carefully picked out by machines and just as carefully inserted into a fresh clone waiting at the original jumping-off point. Once the owner finally jumps back, from their point of view, they are returning to the same body, with the same implants and all, when in actuality it is a new clone. "_ -[http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Death#Cloning](http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Death#Cloning) ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/50 "2018-11-25T09:36:33Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > _"So-called “jump cloning” works in much the same manner. Once a jump contract has been agreed upon, the customer can enter any cloning facility at any station, whereupon they will be brain-scanned, their originating bodies effectively flatlined, and their consciousness transferred to a waiting jump clone at their requested destination. Any implants in the originating body are carefully picked out by machines and just as carefully inserted into a fresh clone waiting at the original jumping-off point. Once the owner finally jumps back, from their point of view, they are returning to the same body, with the same implants and all, when in actuality it is a new clone. "_ > > -[http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Death#Cloning](http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Death#Cloning) That’s an unsourced quote from _Backstage_ wiki though, not a CCP source, no? ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/51 "2018-11-25T09:42:08Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > > [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > > > then they double tank a cruiser and mix weapon sizes right before autopiloting a freighter through Uedama… > > You could always assume that the capsuleer program was so traumatic, that some of them suffered brain damage and became permanently dim-witted. Considering the way the physical orientation section is described (two years of deprivation tanks, zero-G environments, shock stimulations, and other general forms of torture that leaves prospective capsuleers either quitting, dying, or losing their sanity), it makes sense that a significant chunk of capsuleer graduates emerge from that with permanent mental damage. > [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > > [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > > > _"So-called “jump cloning” works in much the same manner. Once a jump contract has been agreed upon, the customer can enter any cloning facility at any station, whereupon they will be brain-scanned, their originating bodies effectively flatlined, and their consciousness transferred to a waiting jump clone at their requested destination. Any implants in the originating body are carefully picked out by machines and just as carefully inserted into a fresh clone waiting at the original jumping-off point. Once the owner finally jumps back, from their point of view, they are returning to the same body, with the same implants and all, when in actuality it is a new clone. "_ > > > > -[http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Death#Cloning](http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Death#Cloning) > > That’s an unsourced quote from _Backstage_ wiki though, not a CCP source, no? Backstage wiki is a direct copy of EVElopedia made after EVElopedia was taken offline. That is a CCP article (written by CCP Abraxas, I think). You can find the official version on the new fiction portal [here](https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/death). As the new fiction portal lacks anchor tags, it’s easier to link to a specific section by using the Backstage version. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/52 "2018-11-25T09:44:19Z")
Being able to unpick implants would kill the implant market though, so there needs to be a lore reason not to. How about implants can extract themselves in highly controlled conditions (arranged jump cloning for instance, but the destructive trauma of pod death/flash fried brain causes extensive non-recoverable damage. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/53 "2018-11-25T11:03:21Z")
Ah, thanks. I’ve been away and it shows 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/54 "2018-11-25T17:24:30Z")
> [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > How about implants can extract themselves in highly controlled conditions (arranged jump cloning for instance, but the destructive trauma of pod death/flash fried brain causes extensive non-recoverable damage. Or, the brand new implants are suspended in a bio-fluid, and are volatile once they are removed from its original packaging and implanted. They only survive outside the body for a dozen minutes at most, therefore they must be implanted into a fresh clone asap or they degrade. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/55 "2018-11-25T17:25:38Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > it makes sense that a significant chunk of capsuleer graduates emerge from that with permanent mental damage. Sounds like the equivalent of “Being dropped on the head as a baby”. ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Austin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_austin/32/321578_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Austin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Austin)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/56 "2018-12-13T02:46:26Z")
The Empyrean Age chapter 29 answers your question really well ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-capsuleers-have-sex-and-children/122527/57 "2019-03-13T02:46:28Z")
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