# Can CCP do anything with the hi-sec ice mining bots **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** bots, ice, high-sec\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121 "2019-07-26T05:12:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/22 "2019-07-26T09:48:32Z")
In this particular case: 1. Effort in searching and scanning for mining sites 2. Ore or ice And the element of skill should have been added to ice mining for example. Like randomly building up gasses inside comet chunk when mining, so it will give a counter beside chunk, and then the mining have to be halted to decompress, if not, than that comet chunk explodes and kills drones and damages ship. There should be sweet point when balancing mining with switching targets is optimal resource gathering. The devs are for that in this game anyway, I will not give them more ideas, let them think for a moment, they are paid for that not me. Also I think the asteroid belts should be removed completely and only scannable sites existing for mining. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/23 "2019-07-26T09:52:42Z")
> [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](#): > > In this particular case: > > 1. Effort in searching and scanning for mining sites > 2. Ore 1. Effort required was minimal 2. You got your ice/ore reward. And still do, now you just open Agnecy and warp. Before it was open scannertron, scan, warp. Woo, that whole one step removed has made it so much more bot friendly and awful for players? Really? BTW here’s one of those “23/7” sites the OP mentions, this one in Abudban ![ice](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/0/1022446ef640c88d2288cbe8fc882e273fe425ef.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/24 "2019-07-26T09:54:22Z")
I wrote my proposition to make it better, and less bottable, together with mechanics of gasseous explosions. Whats yours proposition? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/25 "2019-07-26T09:55:21Z")
> [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](#): > > I wrote my proposition to make it better, and less bottable In what way? Better for who? And how is it less bottable? And where are these bots? ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/26 "2019-07-26T09:58:38Z")
Better for players, more interesting and giving the feeling of treading on minefield you have to disable while mining and gaining ice. A lot worse for bots. The image you took, it doesnt mean anything, that they exist outside picture is completely obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/27 "2019-07-26T09:59:47Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/28 "2019-07-26T10:00:37Z")
> [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](#): > > Better for players, more interesting and giving the feeling of treading on minefield you have to disable while mining and gaining ice. A lot worse for bots. I would certainly be more interesting when someone comes into the belt and overheats their chunks to MAKE them explode. Are you wanting the explosions to have 18+Km radia? Cos thats the only way it could actually affect anyone. And why would an ice explosion even bother a Skiff or a Procurer? The image I took disproves the OPs opening premise, i.e. the point of this thread. > [@Acire\_Hartmann](#): > > In almost every ice available system in hisec I’m seeing bot fleet operating 23/7. ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/30 "2019-07-26T10:05:03Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > disproves It doesnt. CCP bans bots and they come back. You are not disproving that at all. About the mechanics, I will leave it to CCP to bring their game to proper shape. Bother them. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/31 "2019-07-26T10:07:08Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > every ice available system in hisec > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > bot fleet operating 23/7. Every means all and 23/7 means constantly apart from down time There was no bot fleet there as of an hour and a half before downtime. That you cant accept this fact is quite staggering. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/32 "2019-07-26T10:09:09Z")
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**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/33 "2019-07-26T10:12:55Z")
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**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/34 "2019-07-26T10:13:33Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/35 "2019-07-26T10:13:33Z")
Apparently so lol. The lengths I have to go to to find sense around here! ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/36 "2019-07-26T10:20:40Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The lengths I have to go to to find sense around here! You are only captious and nothing else. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/37 "2019-07-26T10:22:22Z")
Amasing in the blackout thread you have people arguing why Null should be safer than hi-sec and now we have people arguing that the rewards in hi-sec are to great and need to be nerfed. Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/38 "2019-07-26T10:22:48Z")
You are unable or unwilling to answer simple questions about your idea, which was formulated to solve a problem suggested by a faulty premise. My objections are not unfounded. The OP is hot air and your ideas dont seem well thought out or based on solid reason. ---
**Author:** ![Natashalynn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natashalynn/32/142458_2.png) [@Natashalynn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natashalynn)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/39 "2019-07-26T10:24:39Z")
Ice is clearly part of the food chain and when you follow it…you get a better picture. Aside from that little statement. There should be a change in general with reguards to high sec ice mining. bots are a big issue here. they are not always in every belt all the time but i can tell you that they are for a good portion or better part of the day. at least raise the respawn time to 12 hours if anything to limit this. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/40 "2019-07-26T10:24:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/41 "2019-07-26T10:26:47Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/42 "2019-07-26T10:27:23Z")
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