# Can CCP do anything with the hi-sec ice mining bots **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** bots, ice, high-sec\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121 "2019-07-26T05:12:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/109 "2019-07-26T14:41:46Z")
So quick to claim a mining fleet is botting when one can easily Alt+Tab to manage since cycles are 60 seconds or more… But a CODE. / GSF 25 man gank fleet (named in succession DBag1-Dbag25) is constantly passed over as: "_I’VE SEEN HIS STREAM… DERRRRP… HE ALT+TABS TO ALL 25 CHARACTERS IN 1.5 SECONDS AND FLAWLESSLY TARGETS AND FIRES…DER HERRRRRRRP… ON THE EXACT TARGETERRRRRRR…PPP… IT’S TOTALLY DOABLE… HERRRRRRRRRRPP. DEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP!!!_ " - italics added to class it up. Let’s deal with ALL botters and cheaters the same. BAN THE TRASH FOR LIFE! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/110 "2019-07-26T14:44:25Z")
I love it when people call others dumb, while completely ignoring the rules of the language that they’re doing it in. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/8/c8c577756cc542eda2721814cdc15ee5d838cb4a.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/113 "2019-07-26T14:50:17Z")
> [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](#): > > I think ISD should remove all those stupid clown comments of yours and those other two clowns that have no interest in doing anything productive. Do you know how a forum works? Because this is not how a forum works. You proposed a mechanics change to stop botters which is an admirable thing, regardless of whether or not the change would work as you envisage. Telling you that it won’t does not make us clowns. @Ramona_McCandless has already figured out a way to kill miners with it, as have I. Any player that is even halfway familiar with how the game works will be able to do the same if they care to. There’s an old adage that applies as much in Eve as it does in real life: Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/114 "2019-07-26T14:50:58Z")
> [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](#): > > Asking few questions isnt even close to arguing. Well no, not when you refuse to answer even the most basic questions about your proposed “fix”. That’s just called being rude. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/115 "2019-07-26T14:52:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > That’s just called being rude. If I didn’t mind getting, rightly might I add, censored I’d replace the word rude with a variant of fart, but yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/116 "2019-07-26T14:53:20Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > @Ramona_McCandless has already figured out a way to kill miners with it, Figured what? The mechanics in her head or yours is not what CCP would ever implement, and I would not propose, People here ask questions and when dont receive answers seem to invent some ■■■■ not worth spitting on it, and then call it debunking. Its pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/117 "2019-07-26T14:53:33Z")
[![Imgur](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/c/2cc8c78d60f0179292684e00e1dc1e2f4b218e08.gif "I understood that reference") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/XS5LK) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/118 "2019-07-26T14:54:37Z")
> [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](#): > > Figured what? The mechanics in her head or yours is not what CCP would ever implement, and I would not propose, People here ask questions and when dont receive answers seem to invent some ■■■■ not worth spitting on it, and then call it debunking. Its pathetic. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/a/2a5e326937f2e911ca318357b10e750cf9bef7ff.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/119 "2019-07-26T14:55:18Z")
I havent invented anything, because you cant tell me what happens when I try to use this so called mechanic. Face it, you havent thought about how it works, you are just saying “heres a cool think, make ice explode when its a bot mining hurrdurr”. Im of the opinion now that you were looking for an echo chamber when you typed it over breakfast. Welcome to GD ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/120 "2019-07-26T14:56:39Z")
You are so dedicated? Make a better proposal. Work with ideas, then publish, like you would say, maybe even for peer reviev LOL. Gratulations for being so dedicated and sounding like a baloon of hot air when said air escapes from it, not bringing up improvements but standing in opposition to needed change. CCP can be proud for having such fanboys. NOT. Its you who are losing this battle, not me, I have more fun things to do. Adios. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/121 "2019-07-26T14:58:01Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > make ice explode when its a bot mining And this is the part that’s got so many holes in it. If the suggester can’t, or won’t, see how this could be abused there is no point in the thread in the first place. If the suggester wants a a soapbox where nobody will dare to disagree there’s always the bathroom. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/122 "2019-07-26T14:58:30Z")
Again you are making statements that have no basis from evidence. You made a suggestion, I asked how it would work, and you got snotty about that. Thats all there is here, your derailment of a thread for your own vanity, its the only consistant thing in any of this. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/123 "2019-07-26T15:00:03Z")
> [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](#): > > Gratulations for being so dedicated and sounding like a baloon of hot air when said air escapes from it, not bringing up improvements but standing in opposition to needed change. This is kind of like bringing a platter of dog doo to a potluck and then getting offended when nobody wants to eat the dog doo, and then screaming and shouting that they should provide constructive criticism on how to improve the dog doo that you’ve brought to the potluck instead of telling you to take your dog doo and gtfo. ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/124 "2019-07-26T15:00:09Z")
What explosion, I wrote about directed damage to mining drones or miners turrets, not explosion in area of 18 km, it was invented by that troll. And a few people here seem to have issues with things you invent. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/125 "2019-07-26T15:00:54Z")
My only regret is that I have but one “like” to give ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/127 "2019-07-26T15:02:58Z")
No, you added that specific when you realised your original idea didnt take a radius of effect into account, nor did it take into account splash damage to others. But I dont recall opposing that part of the idea, so why bring it up? But the question still remains Do the chunks derez when the explosion (which we shall now refer to as The Event to avoid confusion) occurs? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/128 "2019-07-26T15:03:05Z")
Well if you had bothered to answer her question she wouldn’t have had to make an assumption based on a vague ill thought out idea and we’d all be much wiser now, wouldn’t we. But you didn’t, instead you went rabid dog on us. ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/129 "2019-07-26T15:03:37Z")
You mean ridicule Ramona deserves for inventing 18 km blast radius. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/130 "2019-07-26T15:04:45Z")
You dont even know what is this all about. Shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ccp-do-anything-with-the-hi-sec-ice-mining-bots/178121/131 "2019-07-26T15:06:01Z")
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