# Can Ganking be done in lowsec? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** pvp\ **Created:** [January 12, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932 "2024-01-12T12:08:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/21 "2024-01-13T09:27:51Z")
Yeah. I settled on a caveat. Shank(ed for put of empire). I am on the its not gank out of empire side long ago. Out of empire pvp happens lol. Some may not like their abhazon shanking. Okay…why the hell is one there in the first place. Map out next low/jhgh interface sec down the road and use that. Or roll them dice its not camped. And accept the snakes eyes roll if ships goes boom. ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/22 "2024-01-13T10:19:09Z")
I don’t get why these discussions always get so heated. I’m happily AFK mining in the Uusasai constellation enjoying the games soundtrack. Who even cares about low sec? ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/23 "2024-01-13T10:51:03Z")
As far as teaching the jargon goes, I’m all for informing people of the generally accepted meaning inside the Eve community and letting them choose to use it that way, but I would still think it silly to butt into a friendly conversation that was none of your business as the opportunity to teach it. But no, just offering the information in itself does not put you into that third group. I can’t think of a word that can’t be used to misrepresent the truth. If people decide for themselves to use the word ‘gank’ to describe any loss anywhere and they understand one another, I don’t have any issue with this in itself. The ‘psy ops’ you speak of would irk me because it’s a deliberate misrepresentation and I would point that out. The astute part of what Altara said is that it was the intention that matters, not the word itself. I think it is right to interject and call out a person who knows the jargon and is intentionally taking advantage of the ambiguity between the jargon and the standard definition to cause a misunderstanding or misrepresent the actual facts. Informing people of the jargon is also helpful in that it helps people to be understood by others in the know. I draw the line at making the jargon definition absolute even when people are speaking earnestly with no intention to deceive. I do appreciate the context. Now I know why people seem to care about this particular posting. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/24 "2024-01-13T12:12:46Z")
# gank ## [verb](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verb) [ˈgaŋk](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gank?pronunciation&lang=en_us&dir=g&file=gank_1) ganked; ganking; ganks [transitive verb](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transitive) for one to have [stolen](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stolen) [something](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=something); to [get jacked](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=get%20jacked) I just ganked the shoes right off that whinebaby–Zaera Keena You broke into my catalyst … you ganked my Xbox, which may as well have been my first-born child.—Zaera Keena to get [jumped](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jumped) or killed by someone of a much higher [skill lvl](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lvl) in a [MMORPG](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MMORPG) to be robbed of something in the most scumbaggish way possible. Differs greatly from [having things](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=having%20things) taken from you by ladies or gentlemen who do so using [ethical](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ethical) and [honorable](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=honorable) methods. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/25 "2024-01-13T13:06:34Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > @Altara_Zemara is astute: the people who do not like PvP fundamentally in Eve Online are more than happy to hijack it’s most extreme negative connotation („ganking“) and paint _everything_ in the game as being „ganking“. These people are a very vocal minority but are purposefully misusing the jargon as a psychological ploy to change the nature of the game that many have fun with. Well yes…it’s not part of the reason, it is the entire reason. This pretend ‘vote’ is no real vote at all. It is even worded with bias in it. It is the usual suspects who want to turn Eve into Farmville because they either cannot cope with PvP or are useless at it or are just jealous that others are good at it. Such people do not need a vote. They need to be told the door is that ===\> way. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/26 "2024-01-13T13:10:40Z")
> [@Salartarium](#): > > I don’t get why these discussions always get so heated. Because _some people_ have an agenda of misrepresenting the game as having them only, so they need everything to only relate to themselves. So following their propaganda, “ganking” _must_ mean their ganking, just as mining must mean _their_ mining. That’s how they can pretend to not be stupid when claiming miner are AFKs and the game is only PVP. There is no problem with their activities when the language cannot even express the problem to start with. Here is an example of that delusional state of mind : > I’ve flown a lot in Lowsec and have never heard of any PvP there called ganking, even when I was hunting explorers in relic sites, when discussing with other lowsec inhabitants. Then > Who are these people? Trying to misrepresent reality as those people not existing. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/27 "2024-01-13T13:23:35Z")
> [@Qia\_Kare](#): > > As far as teaching the jargon goes, I’m all for informing people of the generally accepted meaning inside the Eve community and letting them choose to use it that way, but I would still think it silly to butt into a friendly conversation that was none of your business as the opportunity to teach it. But no, just offering the information in itself does not put you into that third group. > [@Qia\_Kare](#): > > I draw the line at making the jargon definition absolute even when people are speaking earnestly with no intention to deceive. These seem very reasonable. Thanks for the back and forth to explore this more, I appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/28 "2024-01-13T15:38:10Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > There is no problem with their activities when the language cannot even express the problem to start with. There is no problem to start with. It’s a PvP game and…shock horror…people do PvP in it. Trying to snip the game up into bits that are ‘fair’ or otherwise is on par with complaining that knights can jump over pieces in chess. Well, yes they can…that’s the game rules you signed up for ! That is really _all_ that needs saying on the matter…everything else is just so much word salad verbal diarrhea. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/29 "2024-01-13T19:13:54Z")
Awesome video LOL 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/30 "2024-01-16T22:54:25Z")
> [@Qia\_Kare](#): > > Using the word ‘Ganking’ to describe only suicide ganking in high security space is a form of jargon Yes I think your rights suicide seems to get dropped and people make what’s left "ganking " a derogatory term or a badge of honor in high sec Low and the rest say oh we got ganked to try and deflect that they got out maneuvered and out scouted because they suck . Most of us know what we did wrong if we get killed but play the ,oh I was ganked card makes it seem oh it was mean gankers . Any combat in low is just fighting and what eve is about. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > . It is the usual suspects who want to turn Eve into Farmville because they either cannot cope with PvP or are useless at it or are just jealous that others are good at it. No I think it’s high sec gankers who are happy that other PvP is being called ganking so it reduces the impact of high sec attacks . Like some said about op, a troll Notice who’s missing from this thread ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/31 "2024-01-17T02:20:50Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Notice who’s missing from this thread Is this a conspiracy theory? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/32 "2024-01-17T02:49:35Z")
Waiting for both @Ax_l_Thorne & @Destiny_Corrupted to attend your debate! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/33 "2024-01-17T02:57:47Z")
I can’t post on the forums right now, I’m on vacation. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/34 "2024-01-17T09:33:33Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > oh it was mean gankers Yes , they take away your shiny toy > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > high sec gankers who are happy that other PvP is being called ganking so it reduces the impact of high sec attacks You are funny @Githany_Red , that made me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/35 "2024-01-17T09:53:26Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > that made me laugh. True or not, gankers and CCP aren’t going to mind watering down of the word that shall not be named. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/36 "2024-01-17T11:17:16Z")
Scary isn’t it, like Aiko ? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/37 "2024-01-17T12:57:37Z")
I never knew Githany could jump a shark… 🏄🏻‍♂️ …or as I call it, gank the wave. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/38 "2024-01-17T13:21:59Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > gank the wave You mean grief the wave. 😊 😏 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/39 "2024-01-17T14:44:00Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I never knew Githany could jump a shark… Hey…anti gankers can jump the shark and nuke the fridge both at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932/40 "2024-01-20T14:29:17Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Given that one side is always stronger than another, even if only by a small amount, then according to your definition **all** combat is ganking. What happens when the weaker (underdog) wins? Is that considered a gank? Would it be considered a reverse gank-gank? As in, when a defenseless venture takes out a pvp fit executioner? Also note, this guy jumped me. Not the other way around. ![Exec_kill_with_venture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/2/162964f76d8beb14af16e707b4b43fb134ec5734.png) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-ganking-be-done-in-lowsec/435932.md?page=3)