# "can I bring my Drake?" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 24, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215 "2018-05-24T10:04:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lena\_Crews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lena_crews/32/161576_2.png) [@Lena\_Crews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lena_Crews)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/21 "2018-05-24T15:52:55Z")
> [@Hidden\_Markov](#): > > > [@mkint](#): > > > > Caldari pilots were only screwed if you assume only Caldari shouldn’t have to want to crosstrain. > > True. Among my first stops on crosstrain was…dual neut o cane. Fun times that. It was not a question of why did cane get nerfed but more of a question how the hell did they let it last so long on the server lol. Not sure cross-training applied for BC… at least it didn’t matter when I started. There used to be just a single BC and single destroyer skill. When they switched those to racial BC and racial destroyer, you got whatever rank you had in the original skill in all of the racial skills. Not sure how much before the drake nerf that happened. It was odd coming back to the game and having Amarr BC-4 without even having Amarr Frigate injected. ---
**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/22 "2018-05-24T16:03:39Z")
It was quite a while before the split. And the cross training included racial cruiser, weapons, and tank. All of which for the drake was super easy to do… you got that capital-quality tank without having to train any lvl 5 skills, and only a couple lvl 4 skills. as far as amarr bc lvl 4, I’m not sure that should have happened. I thought the rollout was made to preserve available ships… if you didn’t have amarr frig you wouldn’t have amarr cruiser, so you wouldn’t have been able to fly amarr bc’s, so you shouldn’t have gotten the amarr bc skill. There was a rush to cross train all the faction cruisers to get the “free” skills. ---
**Author:** ![Lena\_Crews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lena_crews/32/161576_2.png) [@Lena\_Crews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lena_Crews)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/23 "2018-05-24T17:09:04Z")
> [@mkint](#): > > It was quite a while before the split. And the cross training included racial cruiser, weapons, and tank. All of which for the drake was super easy to do… you got that capital-quality tank without having to train any lvl 5 skills, and only a couple lvl 4 skills. > > as far as amarr bc lvl 4, I’m not sure that should have happened. I thought the rollout was made to preserve available ships… if you didn’t have amarr frig you wouldn’t have amarr cruiser, so you wouldn’t have been able to fly amarr bc’s, so you shouldn’t have gotten the amarr bc skill. There was a rush to cross train all the faction cruisers to get the “free” skills. Not sure how it was supposed to work. When I left I had BC IV. When I came back I had all of the racial BC skills to IV without any of the pre-reqs for the actual skill (I know Amarr in particular because I was training up to Amarr BS for a particular doctrine ship and had to train frig/cruiser to lvl 3 to train BS. I had amarr destroyer and BC to IV already because of the split. So I know I didn’t have the skills needed to train the BC skill that I already had. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/24 "2018-05-25T12:42:10Z")
The reason was stated: “what ship you could fly before the change you will be able to fly after the change”. That’s why you got racial skills ignoring prerequisites. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Parud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_parud/32/75409_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Parud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Parud)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/25 "2018-05-25T14:09:46Z")
People use it because the vast majority of them are not funny, not original and love to hide in numbers. They fall back on known memes, copying others to try and fit in, thinking/hoping people perceive them as cool and edgy. They’re not, they’re just unfunny and unoriginal. Same with trolling in Rookie chat: you’re not the first, the shitty gimmick you so cleverly thought up has been used a thousand times before. You’re not as entertaining or as intelligent as you hope you are. ---
**Author:** ![Lena\_Crews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lena_crews/32/161576_2.png) [@Lena\_Crews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lena_Crews)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/26 "2018-05-25T15:59:01Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > The reason was stated: “what ship you could fly before the change you will be able to fly after the change”. That’s why you got racial skills ignoring prerequisites. Yeah, but the other poster seemed to think I needed racial cruiser trained in order to actually fly amarr BC so was surprised that I got amarr BC/destroyer “for free”. I dont’ remember the requirements for ships back then. But I know I didn’t have any Amarr ship skills trained and I still got amarr BC for free. Doesn’t really matter though. ---
**Author:** ![Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luigi_mon-de-sound/32/422750_2.png) [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luigi_mon-de-sound)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/27 "2018-05-25T16:01:49Z")
Just to let you know, 100ab fit Drake are fun to fly. ---
**Author:** ![Starrakatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starrakatt/32/384322_2.png) [@Starrakatt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starrakatt)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/28 "2018-05-25T16:41:02Z")
I once shot a Drake for 20 minutes in a Fleet Stabber and eventually ran out of ammo, had to wait another 10 minutes as I maintained point for backup to come and finish it. Found it:[https://zkillboard.com/kill/21660863/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/21660863/) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-i-bring-my-drake/78215/29 "2018-08-23T16:41:08Z")
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