# Can we all agree on one thing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [April 27, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471 "2019-04-27T21:29:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/21 "2019-04-28T08:02:41Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Does this include capsuleer groups? In that case: the filth that collaborates and lives off of the Blood Raiders down in the Delve area. Many capsuleers overall are the worst of the worst. Worse than any pirate nest could ever dream to become. From capsuleer groups, I can offer three candidates: Snuff, Goons and Code. Though in general, I still advocate on promoting Gallente as the most hated group. And before blaming “just” capsuleers, don’t you think that these capsuleers become “worst of the worst” only because they bask in overwhelming permissiveness, which is a direct consequence of gallentean ideals of freedom? ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/22 "2019-04-28T08:46:07Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > gallentean ideals of freedom? … and Caldarian hyper capitalism and exploitation, Amarrian religious fundamentalism and Minmatarian tribalism and warfaring. Capsuleers embody and enhance the worst from all empire factions and pirate groups and add individual touches of evilness and hideousness on top of it. ---
**Author:** ![Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalodote_lafisques/32/388261_2.png) [@Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalodote_Lafisques)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/23 "2019-04-28T10:38:21Z")
The evil can’t be defined in an entity. We can only agree to hate the evil. A precise organization who can be literally THE EVIL doesn’t exist. We aren’t perfect, even if we come from Gallente or from the Sisters of Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/24 "2019-04-28T10:40:04Z")
I support the People of the Blood and the Sanshite Freedom Fighters. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/25 "2019-04-28T10:41:54Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Sanshite 😅😅😅 ---
**Author:** ![Auriga\_Menkalinan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auriga_menkalinan/32/351666_2.png) [@Auriga\_Menkalinan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auriga_Menkalinan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/26 "2019-04-28T11:09:45Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > Guy’s just trying to do his job, cut him some slack. I didn’t say that I hate him or that the attitudes expressed here towards him are justified, just that he seems like a good candidate in answer to the question. I guess you’ve just proved that wrong though. For what it’s worth, I agree, the anger towards him seems a bit over the top sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/27 "2019-04-28T11:17:48Z")
Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/28 "2019-04-28T11:23:57Z")
Concord who liked them? ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/29 "2019-04-28T11:25:48Z")
Hu? Why would you hate the … … oh … WAIT … 😮 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/30 "2019-04-28T11:32:12Z")
Politicians, the only universally reviled group. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/31 "2019-04-28T11:37:13Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > I propose for everyone in New Eden to agree to hate Gallente. Caldari already have that position sewn up. No one likes a space squid. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/32 "2019-04-28T11:47:15Z")
…Drifters… all they do is gate camp and blob, kill and harvest corpses. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/33 "2019-04-28T11:59:13Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > > Pretty sure the Gallante wouldn’t go for that one… > > In that case for a positive answer for Mr. Vayle’s question you’ll need to find also an individual or group that hates itself, which I believe is near impossible. Well, at least for a group. I think ‘Politicians’ as a group do fall under this. Either side in a political structure hate each other and/or each others policies to a greater or lesser degree. Take any individual political group and compare them to the whole of New Eden’s ‘politicians’ and I’m pretty sure they will on average be hated more than not hated. Therefore politicians hate themselves, everyone else hates politicians. I rest my case. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/34 "2019-04-28T14:25:44Z")
Hatred of Minmatar military personnel is pretty much required for the Chosen People of God, for the Minmatar have rebelled against God’s established order, and Minmatar military personnel are the active portion of that rebellion. We must love what God loves, and hate what God hates, and God hates Minmatar military personnel. Whether the Chosen People of God are required to hate all Minmatar everywhere for their act of rebellion is a question that gets too little discussion in this wayward, liberal age. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/35 "2019-04-28T14:37:23Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > He certainly seems extremely skeptical about capsuleers, but I think “hate us and wants us suffer” is an exaggeration. > > I understand his position, too. Capsuleers _are_ a menace. Of course we are, but he’s been awful for no reason but being awful. I even tried to help him once, support his argument, and he just snarled an insult at me. I do take stuff like that a little personally, but that doesn’t make him right, or constructive, or seemingly useful unless his superior is mostly focused on making sure CONCORD officers don’t have too much sympathy for those they’re policing. I have mixed feelings and a whole lot of questions about our place in this world, too, but I really think he just hates us, Else. > [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > Politicians, the only universally reviled group. What? This feels like a particularly Gallentean thing for some reason. Thinking about it, the mechanisms of power in the Federation might work in such a way that politicians get looked at as kind of slimy and squishy and unpleasant or something-- as people who struggle for popular votes might tend to (you’d think it’d be the opposite, but it seems like there’s something inherently suspicious about somebody really desperate to be liked?). I’m not sure this works at all for anybody else’s politicians, though. They’re mostly power players of one kind or another, and tend to be thought of as being looked up to by their subjects. Maybe in most places they even really are. Yeah … sorry, doesn’t work. I don’t even think the rest of us necessarily dislike _Gallentean_ politicans all that much; they’re just the temporary current or would-be leaders of a somewhat chaotic rival power. Sorry. Seriously, does anybody like the Equilibrium of Mankind that isn’t already EoM? They’re not discussed all that much, but basically nobody else is so enthused about everybody dying. If you want to live-- not even just forever; just, like for the near future-- you probably aren’t a big fan? ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/36 "2019-04-28T16:03:31Z")
> [@Nauplius](#): > > We must love what God loves, and hate what God hates, and God hates Minmatar military personnel. > > Whether the Chosen People of God are required to hate all Minmatar everywhere for their act of rebellion is a question that gets too little discussion in this wayward, liberal age. God hates actions, not people. All people were made by God. He wouldn’t make anything he hates. You’re the one who hates God’s creations. Condemn evil actions and punish those who commit them. But even the punishments should be out of love. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/37 "2019-04-28T18:27:51Z")
> [@Aiden\_Vayle](#): > > Is there one entity, be it an individual or group, that literally everyone in New Eden can agree to hate? Goons. Those jerks drive me nuts. I swear, just having to listen to them is like being attacked by ear-cancer. ---
**Author:** ![Rana\_Ash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rana_ash/32/374123_2.png) [@Rana\_Ash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rana_Ash)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/38 "2019-04-28T18:50:28Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > Something that ALL of New Eden hates? Hmm. Well, can’t speak for Rogue Drones but you know when you projectile vomit, and half-digested food is left in your nose? I don’t think anyone likes that. This gets my vote _shudders_ ---
**Author:** ![Mika\_Firestorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mika_firestorm/32/302753_2.png) [@Mika\_Firestorm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mika_Firestorm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/39 "2019-04-28T22:29:01Z")
> [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > I think ‘Politicians’ as a group do fall under this. Either side in a political structure hate each other and/or each others policies to a greater or lesser degree. > > Take any individual political group and compare them to the whole of New Eden’s ‘politicians’ and I’m pretty sure they will on average be hated more than not hated. > > Therefore politicians hate themselves, everyone else hates politicians. > > I rest my case. No-no-no-no. Politicians are active only in one of four empires and most people who hate them are just… other politicians. 🤪 It’s a little circle of hate that for outsiders and people disinterested in politics becomes quite boring and very soon. If you look for a better group candidate… consider LAWYERS 😤 ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/40 "2019-04-28T23:55:23Z")
> [@Aiden\_Vayle](#): > > Is there one entity, be it an individual or group, that literally everyone in New Eden can agree to hate? Only if that entity is self-hating. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Goons. Those jerks drive me nuts. I swear, just having to listen to them is like being attacked by ear-cancer. Likely the only candidate group. 🤪 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471.md?page=3)