# Can we all agree on one thing?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [April 27, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471 "2019-04-27T21:29:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/101 "2019-05-02T11:38:16Z")

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Ehh… why even arguing about freedom? It doesn’t deserve the effort.

Lets better agree that traitors are scum!

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/102 "2019-05-02T12:25:46Z")

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🍿

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/103 "2019-05-02T12:43:36Z")

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Unfortunately it won’t be the thing that people all agree on, but, yeah: I really, really like Heideran VII. His influence in the Empire is pretty wide, but, obviously not absolute.

Seeing his vision of a world at peace become something real: even if I don’t actually hate bloodshed nearly as much as I try to tell myself I should, that’s something I’d really love. It’s a lot of why I stay here. Maybe, some day, we’ll really get there.

Although, even if we did agree in this one thing, maybe we still wouldn’t be able to agree on what that world should look like, or even a vision we could accept.

It’s probably going to be kind of a longish road.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/104 "2019-05-02T13:42:47Z")

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> [@Valerie\_Valate](#):
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> So, if freedom is defined in the Scriptures anywhere, we can use that to define what it actually means.

_Seek not Freedom, you who serve,_  
_For who can truly know it?13_  
_The wild beast, hunting in the night_  
_still serves as God hath made him.14_  
_So too must we, high and low alike_  
_hold firm, and clamour not for illusions_  
_such as choice, and freedom.15_  
_They are nought but shadows on the wall,_  
_a trick of our poor senses’ limitations_  
_in the face of the Holy Light.16_  
_Though firm and solid they may seem_  
_it is a lie.17_  
_For they, like all things_  
_which claim to serve a cause other than God_  
_which claim to serve a nation other than Amarr_  
_are **tofu**.18_

_–The Book of Interpretations, 7:13-18_

So, it looks like the Scriptures define Freedom (and Diana) as tofu.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/105 "2019-05-02T17:57:49Z")

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Well, everyone that lives in high sec supports James 315 as high king, so that’s something we all agree on.

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**Author:** ![Azazel\_Drakonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazel_drakonis/32/495743_2.png) [@Azazel\_Drakonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazel_Drakonis)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/106 "2019-05-02T18:01:31Z")

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Have you ever met anyone in highsec outside of your own brainwashed community? I’d think some of your victims and enemies might disagree on that front.

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**Author:** ![Cain\_Aloga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cain_aloga/32/457080_2.png) [@Cain\_Aloga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cain_Aloga)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/107 "2019-05-02T18:24:33Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> everyone that lives in high sec supports James 315

Fun Fact: the grand majority of people in highsec have no idea who James is.

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**Author:** ![Leonel\_Yasavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leonel_yasavi/32/131685_2.png) [@Leonel\_Yasavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leonel_Yasavi)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/108 "2019-05-02T18:39:02Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> James 315

I have no Idea who this person is.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/109 "2019-05-03T00:20:31Z")

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He’s a man with a special gift: he can assemble an _impressive_ amount of words and still say nothing at all.

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**Author:** ![Garion\_Avarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garion_avarr/32/415302_2.png) [@Garion\_Avarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garion_Avarr)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/110 "2019-05-03T00:43:48Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> He’s a man with a special gift: he can assemble an _impressive_ amount of words and still say nothing at all.

Not that rare of a gift, to be honest.

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**Author:** ![Constantin\_Baracca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/constantin_baracca/32/170074_2.png) [@Constantin\_Baracca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Constantin_Baracca)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/111 "2019-05-03T00:55:06Z")

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I apologized!

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/112 "2019-05-03T02:19:47Z")

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> [@Cain\_Aloga](#):
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> Fun Fact: the grand majority of people in highsec have no idea who James is.

Why you reply with it to me?..😅

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**Author:** ![Cain\_Aloga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cain_aloga/32/457080_2.png) [@Cain\_Aloga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cain_Aloga)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/113 "2019-05-03T02:31:37Z")

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No idea. Must a kink in the format.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Arson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_arson/32/167426_2.png) [@Drake\_Arson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Arson)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/114 "2019-05-03T02:42:35Z")

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Triglavians or Equilibrium of Mankind.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/115 "2019-05-03T03:01:34Z")

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> [@Garion\_Avarr](#):
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> Not that rare of a gift, to be honest.

You really think it’s not rare for someone to be able to do that with enough words that _I’d_ find it impressive? 😉

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**Author:** ![Ami\_Tso](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ami_tso/32/445544_2.png) [@Ami\_Tso](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ami_Tso)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/116 "2019-05-03T06:22:53Z")

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Yes, Heideran VII is a rare pacifist emperor in the empire so far. That’s the reason I like him very much.His words are full of wisdom, but unfortunately some people who have been blinded by bloody disputes cannot recognize the value of peace.  
I once wandered in the borders of civilization and saw many wars and conflicts. The hatred of some people made them break into the darkness and fell into a hopeless war between each other.  
One person’s fallen may not have a big influence, but when the empire’s backbone is also affected by hatred, I can’t imagine what it could be.

May the torch of peace be upholded.

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**Author:** ![Sinikka\_Hakatain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sinikka_hakatain/32/240799_2.png) [@Sinikka\_Hakatain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sinikka_Hakatain)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/117 "2019-05-03T19:38:20Z")

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Lawyers and tax collectors

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**Author:** ![Cashandraa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cashandraa/32/243837_2.png) [@Cashandraa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cashandraa)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/118 "2019-05-12T01:54:18Z")

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We all agree that we are done doing push ups… 🏅

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/119 "2019-05-12T08:00:53Z")

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> [@Cashandraa](#):
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> We all agree that we are done doing push ups…

Now we’re talking.

_Never again_ another day at basic training.

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**Author:** ![Fizy45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fizy45/32/158156_2.png) [@Fizy45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fizy45)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-all-agree-on-one-thing/155471/120 "2019-05-13T12:27:11Z")

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I dont think we can found a common ground still wish you good luck finding one 😃

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