# Can we finally get rid of pulling CONCORD mechanic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 9, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289 "2019-08-09T20:43:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/85 "2020-01-20T16:33:29Z")
I used to be a business owner. I am not evil. On one hand you claim you do not wish to judge, on the other hand you clearly judge. Ignoring that the “don’t judge” idea is absolutely mind blowingly stupid US propaganda born out of their lack of empathy, replaced by “morals”, you yourself should find it weird to say one thing while doing the other. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/86 "2020-01-20T19:43:54Z")
I find it wierd that you cannot seperate what people _do_ with what they are. You are the one who is elevating themselves above their peers. Do you judge the person by their words or by their actions? If the latter, you cannot possibly know beyond a chat forum created for entertainment purposes. I can have an opinion on Zora the business owner, but I have no ability to judge Zora the person. Incidently I said “I dont try to judge”. That should be taken as either I try not to or; I dont need to try. Usually only voice an opinion once the mob has ruled tbh. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/87 "2020-01-24T10:47:26Z")
Found it! > **[r/funny - Flat-Earther accidentally proves the earth is round in his own...](https://old.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/cpyq85/flatearther_accidentally_proves_the_earth_is/)** > > 96,945 votes and 5,111 comments so far on Reddit ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/88 "2020-01-24T10:55:32Z")
Thank you so much … “interesting,” he said 😃 ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/89 "2020-01-24T11:03:05Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I find it wierd that you cannot seperate what people _do_ with what they are. Why do you assume I can not. I _want_ not. Because that’s _nonsense_! You can not pick anything specific of any random person and declare that it is not in some way or form related to who they are, who they want to be, who they wish to represent themselves as, how they behave, how they think. Everything. There is not a single thought any random person can have, which does not originate from his inner workings. People’s logic is _always_ influenced by ones current emotional state, past emotional state and emotional values. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Do you judge the person by their words or by their actions? BOTH! Words are actions too! Literally everything is nothing but a reflection of someones inner states! Why would you ask “or”? Taking apart a person like this is like fragmenting their personality! Someones words reflect someones inner states. Someones actions also reflects their inner states. When words and actions don’t fit together, then that also tells something about that someones inner state. Seperating “words”, “actions” and “personality” creates questions, instead of answers, and pushes away from an empathic approach! That’s why people are so easily fooled, because words mislead them into accepting certain actions, usually until it’s too late! z0ra the business owner is also z0ra the person. It’s literally the same person. Decisions made by z0ra the business owner might be different than the ones made by z0ra the person in respect to how a business needs to be run, but the underlying perspective, viewpoints, interpretations and values are still the same. You’re fragmenting my personality, turning me into a schizophrenic. That a schizophrenic mental state is the relative norm nowadays does not change that it is incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/90 "2020-01-24T11:05:01Z")
Twice! It blew his mind! For a few seconds he had an open mind and then he shut it down again! He’s literal proof how close minded people will do everything they can to defend and rationalize their nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/91 "2020-01-24T12:45:23Z")
It is part of the documentary “behind the curve” on Netflix. I have just watched it. They do another experiment with a gyropscope in order to prove the Earth doesn’t rotate. Of course they prove it does rotate. The results of both experiments are not believed. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/92 "2020-01-24T18:18:39Z")
> [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > He’s literal proof how close minded people will do everything they can to defend and rationalize their nonsense. I have some STARK feelings that we have similar issues around here with some people. _cough_ CSM _cough_ ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/93 "2020-01-25T16:00:12Z")
Reading the first half, I thought you’d be talking about the carebears, Naarian, Sabu, Balos, DMC sadly too often, and the others. If someone wrote a list, it would probably be quite long. Maybe we should start one. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/94 "2020-01-26T12:54:28Z")
Meanwhile, in Australia… ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/b/7b3aa3a9843bb63c0ed63f2a00227b33c76dc88b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/95 "2020-01-30T22:30:48Z")
> [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > On one hand you claim you do not wish to judge, on the other hand you clearly judge. Ignoring that the “don’t judge” idea is absolutely mind blowingly stupid US propaganda born out of their lack of empathy, replaced by “morals”, you yourself should find it weird to say one thing while doing the other. Whoa. What did I just read? Is this how schizophrenic people feel _all the time_? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/96 "2020-01-31T21:29:45Z")
Sounds like someone hates our freedom. ---
**Author:** ![DarkAbroxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkabroxus/32/253377_2.png) [@DarkAbroxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DarkAbroxus)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/97 "2020-02-17T02:45:13Z")
How to solve the Proplem with ganks in HS?. It’s easy. 🙂 The solution is, just put every one who gank someone, on suspect Status with the char who did the crime for one Week. ( Wonder how many nados/trashers will still arround jita then ^^) ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/98 "2020-02-17T08:13:48Z")
You mean we remove the consequences of low sec status and make them suspect instead? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/99 "2020-02-17T08:32:54Z")
Why not just let you teleport stuff from Jita to wherever you are, and then you don’t even have to undock? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/100 "2020-02-17T08:38:01Z")
I probably should have said “pass judgement” rather than judge (measure). ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/101 "2020-02-17T08:41:15Z")
I just don’t understand the whole space part of the game. Buy plex, get Omega, train skills, extract skills, sell on market, trade, why do people even undock?? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/102 "2020-02-17T08:42:05Z")
Gotta walk off all those SP calories ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/103 "2020-02-17T09:11:18Z")
> [@DarkAbroxus](#): > > The solution is, just put every one who gank someone, on suspect Status with the char who did the crime for one Week. What will this change? Most gankers already have a “permanent” worse than suspect status that means the Faction Plod chase them everywhere and allows anybody to shoot them on sight. For those that still have some security status it would be an improvement in that the Faction Plod wouldn’t be chasing them all the time. Not that many people shoot at suspects, or gankers anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289/104 "2020-02-17T09:25:20Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > What will this change? A lot actually. Currently Tornado gankers can just loiter by using tags to remove their security status penalty, so the only way to get them is to use KR’s. And if they sit next to a station and even on a gate they are difficult to kill. For my part I would prefer that the tags only applied to the security status from lowsec activities. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Most gankers already have a “permanent” worse than suspect status that means the Faction Plod chase them everywhere and allows anybody to shoot them on sight. For those that still have some security status it would be an improvement in that the Faction Plod wouldn’t be chasing them all the time. You are ignoring those that keep using the tags, I come across certain CODE gankers that do this too. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Not that many people shoot at suspects, or gankers anyway. Some do. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-finally-get-rid-of-pulling-concord-mechanic/181289.md?page=6)