# Can we have a frank conversation about being forced to pay in USD **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 12, 2019, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-a-frank-conversation-about-being-forced-to-pay-in-usd/174343 "2019-07-12T09:07:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![VeryBadLarry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verybadlarry/32/323835_2.png) [@VeryBadLarry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/VeryBadLarry)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-a-frank-conversation-about-being-forced-to-pay-in-usd/174343/25 "2019-07-12T21:45:49Z")
Yep…figures ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-a-frank-conversation-about-being-forced-to-pay-in-usd/174343/26 "2019-07-12T22:09:02Z")
We call em bogans ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-a-frank-conversation-about-being-forced-to-pay-in-usd/174343/27 "2019-07-12T22:15:22Z")
Put on your “Make New Eden Great Again” hat…I’m sure you will be taken more seriously… ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_J\_ElPresidente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donald_j_elpresidente/32/148017_2.png) [@Donald\_J\_ElPresidente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donald_J_ElPresidente)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-a-frank-conversation-about-being-forced-to-pay-in-usd/174343/28 "2019-07-12T23:15:13Z")
It’s because I cut a TERRIFIC deal with CCP! ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Avada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hunter_avada/32/147771_2.png) [@Hunter\_Avada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hunter_Avada)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-a-frank-conversation-about-being-forced-to-pay-in-usd/174343/29 "2019-07-12T23:34:30Z")
This is actually a really good point. The ATO has/is cracking down on online subscriptions Google, Amazon steam etc are all being forced to pay Australian Tax now. To clarify, in Australia GST must be charged on all digital transactions that are connected to Australia. More specifically … - the sale is made for payment and as part of conducting your business (or it is treated as being part of your business because you are an electronic distribution platform operator) > **[When to charge GST](https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/International-tax-for-business/GST-on-imported-services-and-digital-products/When-to-charge-GST/)** > > Explains when to charge Australian GST on imported services and digital products. This includes EVE Subscriptions … A sale is connected with Australia if the imported services or digital products are sold to an [Australian consumer] ([https://www.ato.gov.au/business/international-tax-for-business/gst-on-imported-services-and-digital-products/terms-we-use/?anchor=Australianconsumers#Australianconsumers](https://www.ato.gov.au/business/international-tax-for-business/gst-on-imported-services-and-digital-products/terms-we-use/?anchor=Australianconsumers#Australianconsumers)). Paying in USD or any other currency doesn’t change the fact that if you are supplying a subscription service in Australia to an Australian tax payer there are tax obligations regardless of the currency you are paying in. That being said, you could just allow payment in Australian Currency. CCP value us enough to host an annual event here. It would be great to get a comment from CCP in regards to this. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-a-frank-conversation-about-being-forced-to-pay-in-usd/174343/30 "2019-10-10T23:34:30Z")
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