# Can we have ammo bay in ship?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [January 9, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316 "2021-01-09T15:05:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carebearstare\_panda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carebearstare_panda/32/246269_2.png) [@carebearstare\_panda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/carebearstare_panda)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/21 "2021-01-09T17:06:40Z")

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well, they won’t let u in on abbys without filament but without drone and ammo absolutely…besides it’s a suggestion, not a straight cut implementation…maybe ccp will have a heart n will let the cargo hold space untouched while giving u extra space for ammo…I am hopelessly optimistic

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**Author:** ![Tharvus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharvus/32/246994_2.png) [@Tharvus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharvus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/22 "2021-01-09T17:09:07Z")

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Lots people people, over the years, bring up lots of ideas and mostly the same ones. Most of those are just bad, unbalanced or massively self serving.

It would require a very big rethink on every ship’s cargo size which would also mean many ships would become less versatile in a “hauling” role. On top of that it doesn’t solve anything other than “If I move everything I forget my ammo”. So what, then don’t move everything. What’s next? “If I didn’t fit any weapons I can’t fire so please add base weaponry to ships”?

It’s a not well though out solution to a problem that almost no one has, really doesn’t solve anything and forces a complete rebalance of ALL ships.

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**Author:** ![Tharvus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharvus/32/246994_2.png) [@Tharvus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharvus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/23 "2021-01-09T17:11:23Z")

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> [@carebearstare\_panda](#):
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> maybe ccp will have a heart n will let the cargo hold space untouched while giving u extra space for ammo

And there is the uninformed, lacking in logic, self serving part.

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**Author:** ![Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oriki_ahvilen/32/395043_2.png) [@Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oriki_Ahvilen)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/24 "2021-01-09T17:12:14Z")

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Here’s a better place for you to post:

[https://twitter.com/FlatEarthOrg?ref\_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author](https://twitter.com/FlatEarthOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

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**Author:** ![carebearstare\_panda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carebearstare_panda/32/246269_2.png) [@carebearstare\_panda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/carebearstare_panda)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/25 "2021-01-09T17:12:17Z")

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I did say I am hopelessly optimistic.

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**Author:** ![Tharvus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharvus/32/246994_2.png) [@Tharvus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharvus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/26 "2021-01-09T17:13:05Z")

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> [@Oriki\_Ahvilen](#):
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> Here’s a better place for you to post:

For someone who stated to not to reply to me you sure are trying hard, and it’s all gibberish.

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**Author:** ![Keryn\_Terona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keryn_terona/32/248745_2.png) [@Keryn\_Terona](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keryn_Terona)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/27 "2021-01-09T17:26:41Z")

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And make everyone’s cargo bay smaller to make space for the ammo bay? How much smaller? What about ships that don’t (but can) use guns, like salvage catalyst? Straight nerf for those guys?

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**Author:** ![carebearstare\_panda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carebearstare_panda/32/246269_2.png) [@carebearstare\_panda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/carebearstare_panda)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/28 "2021-01-09T17:31:38Z")

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> [@carebearstare\_panda](#):
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> maybe ccp will have a heart n will let the cargo hold space untouched while giving u extra space for ammo

you know like actual QOL update

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/29 "2021-01-09T17:37:11Z")

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I have yet to see any conversation from CCP themselves about it, but it seems like its really a lost point to add a ammo bay… and i completely understand the balancing act for why it was never implemented even though it seems like at least once or twice a year someone mentions it.

quoting @ShahFluffers here  
" based on what the DEVs have done in the past, you don’t want them to make a separate hold just for ammo. Because they will most likely nerf the general cargohold (which will limit your loot holding abilities).  
No, you can’t have your cake and eat it too!"

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/30 "2021-01-09T17:55:00Z")

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It could be an automatic cargo separator which would make ammo for your currently fit modules to appear separated in an ammo bay.

Fit a launcher and corresponding sized missiles in your cargo move to ammo. Unfit your tracking computer and all scripts move back to cargo.

No cargo expansion. No new bay per se. No cargo rebalancing necessary.

As a laserboat pilot I absolutely hate the mess with dozens of unstackable used crystals mixed with probes and loot and everything else.

I put modules I carry along to refit in a can not to mix them with loot. I also want my ammo separated.

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**Author:** ![Tharvus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharvus/32/246994_2.png) [@Tharvus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharvus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/31 "2021-01-09T18:01:38Z")

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Adding a filter would be an option but I highly doubt it would solve OP’s problem as it’s born out of a lack of effort, so he’d forget to use the filter.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/32 "2021-01-09T18:57:15Z")

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Remember this will also be a new bay for red dot’s to spawn from.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/33 "2021-01-09T20:07:49Z")

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OP here’s the solution for your problem:

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/9/79ccb0ebf178b1c7ea391c1198ec43242df7723a.jpeg "F/A-18C Aircraft Carrier Preflight and Startup") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeij-YX9MdY)

You’re welcome!

😉

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**Author:** ![Spitfire1938](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spitfire1938/32/474648_2.png) [@Spitfire1938](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spitfire1938)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/34 "2021-01-10T00:55:59Z")

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Yes I will be hurt if there is an ammo bay. I do not like the idea of an ammo bay, it will just make things more complicated if there is an ammo bay as I will need to have my ammo bay open as well as my cargo bay for boosters.

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**Author:** ![Spitfire1938](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spitfire1938/32/474648_2.png) [@Spitfire1938](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spitfire1938)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/35 "2021-01-10T00:57:09Z")

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Depending on the size of cargo bay of the ship you are using you can use small cargo containers to separate your various items.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/36 "2021-01-10T01:36:56Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> based on what the DEVs have done in the past, you don’t want them to make a separate hold just for ammo. Because they will most likely nerf the general cargohold (which will limit your loot holding abilities).  
> No, you can’t have your cake and eat it too!"

And he was right when he said it.

OP hasn’t considered how cap boosters are ‘ammo’. So you now have split bays for these bulky items which will undoubtedly mean unused space in both bays.

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**Author:** ![ShahFluffers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shahfluffers/32/258921_2.png) [@ShahFluffers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ShahFluffers)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/37 "2021-01-10T06:00:55Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> And he was right when he said it.

I don’t often make predictions… but when I do, I prefer rooting them in historical facts.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/d/fd873dd7761eabc4877c31cbde4f13ae14da14df.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Real\_Fake\_Goon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/real_fake_goon/32/236882_2.png) [@Real\_Fake\_Goon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Real_Fake_Goon)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/38 "2021-01-10T06:22:42Z")

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How about a sticky note on your monitor - “don’t forget ammo/drones!”  
Problems solved. Otherwise your laziness or weak memory won’t work if you have bays for every desired stuff you have to take with you prior to undock.

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**Author:** ![carebearstare\_panda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carebearstare_panda/32/246269_2.png) [@carebearstare\_panda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/carebearstare_panda)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/39 "2021-01-10T07:37:51Z")

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dude i will need 15 min to prepare every time i went out in eve

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**Author:** ![carebearstare\_panda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carebearstare_panda/32/246269_2.png) [@carebearstare\_panda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/carebearstare_panda)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-have-ammo-bay-in-ship/289316/40 "2021-01-10T07:39:06Z")

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well i have memory of a goldfish send me bil isk to find out

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