# Can we look at the Pilgrim **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [October 25, 2017, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-look-at-the-pilgrim/33920 "2017-10-25T06:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-look-at-the-pilgrim/33920/21 "2017-11-27T16:55:14Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > You can have 100.000 ehp or an infinite active tank while the cyno is up Link fit please. I’ve never seen more than about 70k EHP, and that’s with a lot more bling than I’d want to put on a force recon. EWAR in this case can be offensive, as you can kill an active tank with neuts… but generally speaking all ewar is defensive in nature, even if used by an attacking ship. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-look-at-the-pilgrim/33920/22 "2017-11-27T18:21:50Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > EWAR… with neuts How is that supposed to work? Weapon disruptor - does not turn of active tank Electronic Counter Measure Gravimetric, ladar, Magnetometric, Radar or Multi Spectrum - does not turn of active tank Sensor dampener - does not turn of active tank Target painter - does not turn of active tank Warp disruptor - does not turn of active tank Warp scrambler - does not turn of active tank Warp disruption field generator - does not turn of active tank Burst Jammer - does not turn of active tank See, lots of electronic warfare and none of them is capable of turning of an active tank. The magic - IMATURNYOUOFFLINE - module can turn of an active tank. > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Link fit please. My fits cost between 5 and 50 billion isk. I may link them when I receive the payment. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-look-at-the-pilgrim/33920/23 "2017-11-27T22:28:30Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > How is that supposed to work? Easy, I said it already - try reading next time: > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > EWAR in this case can be offensive, as you can kill an active tank with neuts In case you didn’t know, neuts are ewar. The rest, as you very clearly show, are defensive in nature, as I very clearly said as well. > [@elitatwo](#): > > My fits cost between 5 and 50 billion isk. I may link them when I receive the payment. That’s what I thought. Try using real numbers next time (or realistic fits that don’t involve officer mods and high-grade slaves). Some variance in numbers is fine, but yours was roughly 50% in excess of reality. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-look-at-the-pilgrim/33920/24 "2017-11-28T00:30:06Z")
Well that was not what I meant but that Pilgrim costs below 500m to get to 100.000 ehp. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-look-at-the-pilgrim/33920/25 "2017-11-28T18:14:20Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > Well that was not what I meant but that Pilgrim costs below 500m to get to 100.000 ehp. I know clearly what you meant. Under 500m, you’re looking at dual 1600mm faction plates, dual faction EANMs, and dual trimarks. Good luck making it useful for anything, it lacks the fitting space for useful neuts, useful prop mod (10mn won’t cut it with that much mass), and you’ve got just barely enough to fit a meaningful tackle package on. You’re way better off flying a legion at this point. A “realistic” fit is one you’d be able to use for something. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-we-look-at-the-pilgrim/33920/26 "2018-02-26T18:14:21Z")
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