# Can't Enjoy the Game

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pve, high-sec\
**Created:** [May 14, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155 "2020-05-14T20:07:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/126 "2020-05-18T20:38:23Z")

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Trudat

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**Author:** ![Hewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hewolf/32/205544_2.png) [@Hewolf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hewolf)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/127 "2020-05-18T23:06:08Z")

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I’m flying an ORCA with a PVP setup in Hisec. I’m also using T2 drones and ALL my mining skills are MAXXED. the ship and modules are not the problem. It’s getting to a belt, and 30 minutes later I get 3 Raznaborg warping in and attacking. I lose maybe 8% of my total shields by the time I warp away. I wait a few minutes, goto a Different Belt, and the same thing happens.

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**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/128 "2020-05-18T23:17:12Z")

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He’s like the exact opposite of her. I couldn’t imagine spending that long in one system. I get bored of the system I’m in after a week, anyways.

OP, you should have stuck around in CAS longer. We’d show you that there’s more to the game than mining in a single system for that long.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/129 "2020-05-18T23:30:06Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> go ahead and leave me i think i prefer to stay inside…  
> Maybe you’ll find someone else to help you?

Maybe Black Mesa?

That was a joke, haha, fat chance.

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**Author:** ![Bane\_Askold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bane_askold/32/242404_2.png) [@Bane\_Askold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bane_Askold)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/130 "2020-05-19T06:21:47Z")

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You can kill them with no effort in your orca. why warping out ?  
Kill them, loot and salvage then continue to mine. There is no problem there

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**Author:** ![Kendar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kendar/32/213990_2.png) [@Kendar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kendar)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/131 "2020-05-19T06:34:03Z")

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Either you are trolling or you are stupid

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/132 "2020-05-19T06:46:27Z")

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Hanlon’s Razor in effect.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/133 "2020-05-19T07:37:31Z")

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Why not both?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/134 "2020-05-19T08:00:44Z")

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Everyone’s gameplay has been changed over time so far, and you expected to be spared?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/135 "2020-05-19T08:37:31Z")

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Youve a PvP setup, but 8% shield loss is a breakpoint?

Post the fit, lets see it

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**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/136 "2020-05-19T10:37:08Z")

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Yes I would love to see this fit also. Kinda wondering what you have on there seeing as I can solo emerging conduits in mine but yours cannot even take on 5 at most.

Edit: I just reread your post. 3 ? And you warp away.  
Industrial command level 5?

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**Author:** ![Spaminator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spaminator/32/195240_2.png) [@Spaminator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spaminator)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/137 "2020-05-20T11:24:24Z")

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Space is dangerous, bro.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/138 "2020-05-21T03:36:32Z")

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> [@Spaminator](#):
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> Space is dangerous, bro.

6/10 lots of sun , lack of air

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**Author:** ![HitmanJack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hitmanjack/32/207422_2.png) [@HitmanJack](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/HitmanJack)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/139 "2020-05-22T08:53:43Z")

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I agree there is a big problem there i think CCP has vastly underestimated just how many people liked to mine in High-Sec while semi afk while looking after kids or working etc of course the ganker risk was always there but it was a small risk. I would do this myself when not in null and busy with rl stuff on occasion. The Emerging Conduits have now made semi afk mining not doable and taken a large part that many liked away. However i undertsand the need tackle bots. A happy compromise is what is needed in my opinion i think that should be the focus rather than shooting somebody down for expressing a opinion that is with no dout supported by many and likely already caused a fair fee to leave the game well i know it has.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/140 "2020-05-22T09:01:48Z")

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As somebody that regularly shoots down, let me put this another way…

Why should CCP invest more time to help players earn ISK while semi-afk or fully afk when CCP could spend that time improving other aspects of the game for players that are actually at their KBs all the time?

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/141 "2020-05-22T09:06:13Z")

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Yup, they can give us more game trading cards on Ethereum so we have something to keep after Eve dies

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/142 "2020-05-22T09:10:07Z")

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This is what happens when you ignore the popular call for exploding ice

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/143 "2020-05-22T09:10:32Z")

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Nothing’s stopping players making others explode or pushing them off grid

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/144 "2020-05-22T09:12:11Z")

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No no you didnt get the memo

Ice, that EXPLODES when its mined.

I cant claim credit. Someone else came up with the idea, but its great.

Apparently, if you dont stop mining at just the right time, the ice explodes and melts your modules.

Personally, I just want to push my “Making Mining Lasers Do Targetted Module Damage” agenda Ive been on now for a while

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-enjoy-the-game/241155/145 "2020-05-22T09:13:11Z")

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Ships should randomly just explode on undock imo

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