# Capital ships is a joke **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702 "2021-06-10T12:10:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Elenahina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elenahina/32/307923_2.png) [@Elenahina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elenahina)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/101 "2021-06-11T11:36:34Z")
> [@Shea\_Tzestu](#): > > Blinging a t1 carrier is pointless > [@Shea\_Tzestu](#): > > a t1 carrier > [@Shea\_Tzestu](#): > > t1 WTB: T2 Carrier. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/102 "2021-06-11T11:41:57Z")
Hecates not a bombers. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/104 "2021-06-11T13:21:13Z")
From today’s BLOPS changes announce: > These changes are being introduced in order to help bring the Black Ops out of the shadows and into the forefront as the top of the line in covert gameplay. With a ship that costs over a billion ISK, it should be something that players are able to use confidently while also putting their ship on the line in exchange for extreme firepower. So in CCP’s paradigm ship which cost about ~1.7 bil should be buffed, but capital ships which now costs from ~10 bil to infinity - shouldn’t. Logic… ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/105 "2021-06-11T15:34:09Z")
Black ops have very little ehp compared to a capital thou, they are very different. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/106 "2021-06-11T15:41:58Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > So in CCP’s paradigm ship which cost about ~1.7 bil should be buffed, but capital ships which now costs from ~10 bil to infinity - shouldn’t. > Logic… If blops bs dropped you, they are easier to hit so you might be able to take one with you if you play it right. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/107 "2021-06-11T15:50:37Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > which cost about ~1.7 bil With the announcement, they will be closer to 2.7 B by the end of the day. They’re already listing at 2.3B Just thought I’d mention this for anyone wanting to jump on the speculation train early. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/108 "2021-06-11T16:06:06Z")
look im in a bad run lost a lot of ships this days but i can say some things about this kill 1. there is a lot of pilots close and they didn’t help, i killed 2 hecates 2v1 in a t1 omen ,i killed a lot 1v1 in a t1 destroyer to, is not that hard , those cruisers could save you, i guess is the null sec way 2. sensor booster , no tank , no point , no web, your fit is terrible against other players 3. you were kinda close to a structure but isolated , why??? don’t do that ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/109 "2021-06-11T16:09:18Z")
re 1: they did help, they (or the thanny) were out of position, see battle report I linked earlier re 2: he was krabbing (or at least that should be the reason) ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/110 "2021-06-11T16:12:50Z")
if they helped they are not good at it i can kill 2 hecates per minute with medium/small lazors to gank they have paper ehp , like less than a t1 algos there was cruisers and destroyers there ---
**Author:** ![Elenahina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elenahina/32/307923_2.png) [@Elenahina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elenahina)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/111 "2021-06-11T16:48:39Z")
Both of which are T1. Muppet. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/112 "2021-06-11T17:02:24Z")
Caps prices rised too after industry changes. So where’s buff? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/113 "2021-06-11T17:19:05Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > So where’s buff? Don’t know. Don’t care. I was pointing out recent market trends. Not why they’re happening. Just that they are happening. Use that information as you see fit. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Elenahina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elenahina/32/307923_2.png) [@Elenahina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elenahina)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/114 "2021-06-11T17:26:14Z")
Cap prices rose for a different reason. CCP wasn’t buffing the ships, they were changing the industry model. ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/115 "2021-06-11T17:43:03Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Not matter how much people with pistols you take and how much time they shoot a tank - nothing happens. This works both ways… imagine a big tank strolls into your neighbourhood, all alone. You and your neighbours all grab your pistols and storm the tank. The tank’s big cannon doesn’t track fast enough that _anyone_ would ever be caught right in front of it, so eventually you’re all sitting right on top of this tank. You’re hanging your dirty laundry on the tank’s turret, using its air holes as a lavatory, pissing against its viewscreens, whatever… Eventually one of the tank operators gets sick and tired of being made to look silly, grabs a machine gun, opens a hatch and gets shot right between the eyes by the guy waiting at this hatch right for this event. And that is how you kill a tank with 10 guys with pistols. Of course, if this were 10 tanks supported by 30 infantry with a possibility of air support this would be an entirely different matter. No competent military commander sends a tank alone into hostile territory (or anywhere). ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/116 "2021-06-11T18:35:08Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > So where’s buff? im chocked i mean, there was a lot of people thinking that capital ships are overpowered and their proliferation was one of the biggest problems of the game its kinda refreshing to listem to such a novelty idea from a philosopher like you ---
**Author:** ![Terak\_Romaller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terak_romaller/32/374271_2.png) [@Terak\_Romaller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terak_Romaller)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/117 "2021-06-11T18:39:25Z")
OK, it’s an edge case, but can [infantry kill a tank](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3699663/Free-Syrian-Army-rebel-sneaks-Assad-tank-throws-grenade-barrel-blow-gun-battle.html#v-5912112115259295471)? (I apologise for the link to the Daily Mail). Eve and Real Navies don’t align well - but the origins of “Destroyers” as escort ships for larger capital ships is worth looking up. They were originally known as TBDs - Torpedo Boat Destroyers. ---
**Author:** ![Ellison\_Onizuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ellison_onizuka/32/314780_2.png) [@Ellison\_Onizuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ellison_Onizuka)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/118 "2021-06-11T20:34:33Z")
you keep using the tank analogy and what you should use is an air craft carrier analogy being attacked by fighter jets, and based on the fit this guy had it should be an air craft carrier made of very thin aluminum. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/119 "2021-06-11T20:46:14Z")
> EVE ships dont have ammo storages. Sure they do - it’s your cargo hold. > EVE not have a ship which represent a sub. Stealth Bombers are EvE’s subs. –Helpful Gadget ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/120 "2021-06-11T20:49:17Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > It’s like if you take 10 man with pistols and they shoot a modern tank XXXX times - it blows up. Well… you could in DUST… And that’s set in New Eden. –Gadget is just sayin’ ---
**Author:** ![Terak\_Romaller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terak_romaller/32/374271_2.png) [@Terak\_Romaller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terak_Romaller)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702/121 "2021-06-11T20:57:14Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > you could in DUST I miss DUST. My introduction to New Eden. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/capital-ships-is-a-joke/315702.md?page=7)