# Carcal and Drake PVE fits? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [June 25, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195 "2018-06-25T22:30:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Joshua\_Christen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joshua_christen/32/28546_2.png) [@Joshua\_Christen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joshua_Christen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/1 "2018-06-25T22:30:23Z")
any good pve fits. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/2 "2018-06-25T22:43:11Z")
What would the purpose of these fits have? > [@Joshua\_Christen](#): > > any good pve fits. You need to be more specific than this. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Joshua\_Christen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joshua_christen/32/28546_2.png) [@Joshua\_Christen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joshua_Christen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/3 "2018-06-25T22:46:15Z")
vs guristas pirate ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/4 "2018-06-25T22:48:34Z")
Better, now we know the enemy. šŸ™‚ Stillā€¦ what sort of activity? Combat Sig(s), Anomalies, missions (what lvl?)? ---
**Author:** ![Joshua\_Christen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joshua_christen/32/28546_2.png) [@Joshua\_Christen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joshua_Christen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/5 "2018-06-25T22:56:20Z")
i am new to the pve aspect but Combat anomalies class 4,5,6 and mission lvl 2,3 and higher ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/6 "2018-06-25T23:06:08Z")
Youā€™ll want a battleship for L4s and mission-specific frigates and cruisers for Burner missions (thereā€™s an excellent guide in the PvE section). Not a Drake or a Caracal, however. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/7 "2018-06-25T23:10:51Z")
> [@Joshua\_Christen](#): > > Combat anomalies class 4,5,6 If you are referring to the Rated DED sites of 4,5 and 6/10. It will be difficult but not impossible (inefficient though) to do the DED 4/10 with a Caracal, however 5/10 and above will require a BS or T3C to handle the task. Read more about Combat complexes (sigs) [here](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Combat_sites#DED_rated_complexes). > [@Joshua\_Christen](#): > > mission lvl 2,3 and higher For L2 missions the Caracal will be fine (may be a few that will require extra efford). For L3 missions Drake is fine however if you want to progress and do L4ā€™s youā€™d probably want to aim for a BS as NPC BSs can be tough to chew through if lacking in DPS (as the Drake will) ---
**Author:** ![Joshua\_Christen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joshua_christen/32/28546_2.png) [@Joshua\_Christen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joshua_Christen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/8 "2018-06-25T23:39:35Z")
lvl 2 mission running carcal lvl 3 missions running drake Guristas Scout Outpost drake fitting ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/9 "2018-06-26T03:53:25Z")
one of the drakes i used [Drake, Drake] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II J5 Enduring Warp Disruptor 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I ---
**Author:** ![Nerdz\_Rool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nerdz_rool/32/498094_2.png) [@Nerdz\_Rool](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nerdz_Rool)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/10 "2018-06-26T06:18:35Z")
Why do you use a buffer, not passive tanked ship for pve?.. better to use purgers as rigs to get more passive regen. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/11 "2018-06-26T07:05:18Z")
Iā€™m thinking along the lines of this: > **Caracal, L2 Mission Caracal** > > > ### Low-slots > > > > Ballistic Control System II > > Ballistic Control System II > > Ballistic Control System II > > Ballistic Control System II > > > > ### Mid-slots: > > > > Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field > > Large Shield Extender II > > Dread Guristas Thermal Dissipation Field > > Large Shield Extender II > > 10MN Afterburner II > > > > ### High-slots: > > > > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > > > > ### Rigs: > > > > Medium Core Defense Field Purger I > > Medium Core Defense Field Purger I > > Medium Core Defense Field Purger I > > > > ### Drones/Ammo: > > > > Hornet II x2 > > > > Scourge Precision Light Missile x5000 > > Scourge Fury Light Missile x10100 > **Drake, L3/Scout Outpost Drake** > > > ### Low-slots > > > > Ballistic Control System II > > Ballistic Control System II > > Ballistic Control System II > > Ballistic Control System II > > > > ### Mid-slots: > > > > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > > Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II > > Kinetic Deflection Field II > > Large Shield Extender II > > 50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive > > Large Shield Extender II > > > > ### High-slots: > > > > Heavy Missile Launcher II > > Heavy Missile Launcher II > > Heavy Missile Launcher II > > Heavy Missile Launcher II > > Heavy Missile Launcher II > > Heavy Missile Launcher II > > Core Probe Launcher II > > > > ### Rigs: > > > > Medium Core Defense Field Purger II > > Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I > > Medium Core Defense Field Purger II > > > > ### Drones/Ammo: > > > > Hornet II x5 > > > > Scourge Precision Heavy Missile x4000 > > Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x10240 > > Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16 You will need a CPU implant to be able to fit the Probe Launcher. This fit is for fighting Guristas, if you want to fight other, youā€™d need to adjust the Hardeners accordingly. The upside is you can use this for both L3 Missions and Scout Outposts. One important information, the fit is not cap stable with MWD on. if you carry around a Mobile Depot and Data/Relic analyzers you can refit and run some sites if you feel like you want to do something different. ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/12 "2018-06-26T07:38:45Z")
I hope you did not forget, that Gnosis will give all bonuses for low skill point char for freeā€¦ All mentioned Heavy missiles fits lack application modes, IMHO. Guidance enchancers or computers, you knowā€¦ L2 and L3 are full of really small and fast targets. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/13 "2018-06-26T20:27:37Z")
> [@Nerdz\_Rool](#): > > Why do you use a buffer, not passive tanked ship for pve?.. better to use purgers as rigs to get more passive regen. purgers are probably better, but eh itā€™s level 3s, it really shouldnā€™t matter unless you are very low skilled. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/14 "2018-06-26T23:19:40Z")
say that to the ā€œcut-throat competitionā€. ---
**Author:** ![Kynami\_Vaille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kynami_vaille/32/229160_2.png) [@Kynami\_Vaille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kynami_Vaille)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/15 "2018-06-27T01:58:25Z")
That mission isnā€™t Guristas that flat out against Caldari Navy units with the provision that as is a ā€œrivalā€ corporation you arenā€™t incurring the usual faction kill penalties. Perfectly doable with a dual-rep Myrmidon however. Back to the topic at hand howeverā€¦ Most L3s are doable even if definitely slow to clear with the Caracal. Just run a passive kite fit. But since you mentioned Guristasā€¦ you could run an amazingly stupid passive tank on a Moa that would make most missions something of a joke. ~90% kinetic resistance takes your effective hitpoints over 75K and ~250 EHP/s in tank recovery. You would spend about 35m setting a Moa up for that, but it could be worthwhile. Iā€™ll also point out that in addition to guidance enhancers or computers the target painter is another really good option for improving missile damage. Shame nobody saw fit to mention it previously. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/16 "2018-06-27T10:50:01Z")
> [@Kynami\_Vaille](#): > > That mission My point was : the DPS in this mission is over what a passive fitted drake can handle (sometimes the triggers are weird), unless maybe perfect skills. since you are almost perma jammed after the first trigger( which you dont know what it is), it is a very difficult mission for which extra tank is not ā€œoverā€ ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/17 "2018-06-27T17:55:20Z")
> [@Kynami\_Vaille](#): > > against Caldari Navy Ah well I would have never ran that then. anyways last time I did lv3 running it was on a well skilled character with t2 guns in a ferox with hyperspatial rigs and a buffer tank. There might be a storyline mission where it matters, kidnappers strike 10/10 has a lot of BS rats, but you donā€™t have to kill them so it might not matter. And that one anti caldari mission which most people are going to decline anyways. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carcal-and-drake-pve-fits/85195/18 "2018-09-25T17:55:21Z")
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