# Carriers and Dreads **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [August 11, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602 "2019-08-11T15:46:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/21 "2019-08-12T21:09:20Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > Agreed. Imagine the fights with wardeccers also… Carriers/Dreads/Supers all need to have their manufacturing materials and time cut down by at least 50%. More capitals in more hands across more systems = the fun/content we have all been looking for. > > It’s time. Obviously many of you have never piloted a capital ship. Maybe read up before suggesting things no one in their right mind would suggest. Start here: [EVE Wiki: Capital Ships](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Capital_Ship) Be sure to read about the ships themselves, they are not just bigger badder battleships, many are specialized for situations that do not include solo ratting. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/22 "2019-08-12T22:27:03Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > do not include solo ratting. There are some crazy thinkers in New Eden, wouldn’t you say? ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/23 "2019-08-12T22:27:09Z")
Id rather all moon goo not be in null sec only since that is the only way to build T2 ships and modules. Those are used far more then capitals and having the materials elsewhere would be beneficial to the whole game for fun content. ---
**Author:** ![Hillbert\_Alexis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hillbert_alexis/32/263334_2.png) [@Hillbert\_Alexis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hillbert_Alexis)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/24 "2019-08-12T23:23:53Z")
I haven’t done incursions in a long time, but the vast majority, if not all actual difficult and rewarding content outside of incursions is blocked by acceleration gate access, save some escalations. If someone wants to use a carrier to do refuge sites, let um. ---
**Author:** ![Netan\_MalDoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/netan_maldoran/32/426257_2.png) [@Netan\_MalDoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Netan_MalDoran)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/25 "2019-08-13T01:23:31Z")
You can get R64 in lowsec… ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/26 "2019-08-13T01:24:34Z")
But not WH. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/27 "2019-08-13T08:20:56Z")
Any High Sec pilots wanna buy a Carrier and a Dread? I got a couple spares laying around. Priced to move and only one other previous careful chicken Nullsec owner! ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/28 "2019-08-13T12:21:46Z")
After this weekend I might be interested in purchasing a new phoenix, as the one I had is currently undocked lost in space after server shutdown. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/29 "2019-08-13T12:48:57Z")
> [@Mike\_Combe](#): > > I would love to be able to fly a carrier or dread around in HS running level 4 missions or maybe CCP could bring some level 5s to HS or even better add new missions that only a carrier or dread could run. That’s pretty much the reason why they don’t allow caps into hisec. > [@Mike\_Combe](#): > > there’s no way people will use them to gank people in HS as concord would blow them up and that would be an expensive loss. Yeah, as opposed to using 30 accounts in 30 stealth bombers(2 billion isk per account per month, 40 mill per stealth bomber, 1.2 bill in ships and 60 bill in plex) to gank targets. No, much more expensive to use 1 account with a 2 billion isk ship to gank. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/30 "2019-08-13T12:51:11Z")
> [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > Caps can jump into highsec, but being in highsec gives both a suspect flag and a weapons timer. Add to that, faction police chase you around and try to destroy you because you are infringing on their territory. Stay longer than 2 minutes and faction caps start spawning and shooting you. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/31 "2019-08-13T13:25:30Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > faction caps I got a hot feeling when I thought of this But I agree, let them taste FacPo response to unwelcome proliferation. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/32 "2019-08-13T13:34:36Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I got a hot feeling when I thought of this Yeah I wanna see a bunch of amarr titans spawn and start doomsdaying a carrier. That would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/33 "2019-08-13T13:55:15Z")
I want to see them cut in half, with all the normies spilling out. Thatll be fun for aspirational play. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/34 "2019-08-13T14:57:26Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > many are specialized for situations that do not include solo ratting. Yet, they are all used for… solo… ratting… Sounds u just want to be unique. Awww so cute, the little unicorn. 🦄🦄🦄🧙🏼‍♀️🧙🏼🧚🏼 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/35 "2019-08-13T15:06:50Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > Yet, they are all used for… solo… ratting… Dread Ratting? Is that a thing with the kids now? ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/36 "2019-08-13T15:07:30Z")
If Keepstars are allowed in High Sec then logic would dictate that the only real counter, CAPITAL SHIPS, should also be allowed… Unless the Keepstars-in-highsec was just more CCP corrupt collusion with the same old blocs they have colluded with in the past. That and the recent tax changes to NPC stations… seems pretty sketchy. No Capitals in High Sec, then no Keepstars in High Sec. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/37 "2019-08-13T15:08:51Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > No Capitals in High Sec, then no Keepstars in High Sec. Sure why not, its not like youll do anything to the thousand Astrahauses thatll replace each one ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/38 "2019-08-13T15:34:50Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > No Capitals in High Sec, then no Keepstars in High Sec. As a developer I always think it is comical when customers think they have some ability to negotiate. We saw that a lot of the local/cloaking, guess what? 🤣 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Hillbert\_Alexis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hillbert_alexis/32/263334_2.png) [@Hillbert\_Alexis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hillbert_Alexis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/39 "2019-08-13T16:11:57Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Dread Ratting? > > Is that a thing with the kids now? Dreads are the best and cheapest way for a solo pilot to kill a npc capital spawn. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602/40 "2019-08-13T16:13:45Z")
Cool. And now I know. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-and-dreads/181602.md?page=3)