# Carriers too stronk! WAAAAAH! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 8, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219 "2020-02-08T11:24:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/63 "2020-02-09T22:10:29Z")
How old are you? Do you find pointless bickering, such as “you were trying to help me?” in any way useful? How about this. Let’s just crown you king of “meaningless sarcastic comebacks,” lets declare that you win in that competition, and be done with it? ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/64 "2020-02-09T22:52:51Z")
Hey Beast - 'cause I’m a nice gu…girl I’ll take that worthless carrier off your hands for you and give you a shiny new _T2 fit !!!_ Ishtar! Simply contract it to me and I’ll be glad to help you on this, friend! No, no - no need to thank me, I’m just glad to be of help! ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/65 "2020-02-10T05:37:28Z")
If only I could fly one (an Ishtar)! Maybe a better idea would be to give me some skill extractors so I could pull out the capship skills and inject T2 and T3 cruisers, T2 frigates, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/66 "2020-02-10T05:41:37Z")
> [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > I didn’t miss, I hit quite a bit. He simply regenerated Yes but there’s a difference between glancing blows and smashing blows, and in this case, that difference is webs. You might have hit, but you didn’t really apply your potential damage properly because he was able to speed tank. Slow him down and your potential damage will apply better and your logs will show more smashing hits. He won’t rep so easily then. ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/67 "2020-02-10T06:15:16Z")
Ok. Good explanation, without personal insults. +1. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/68 "2020-02-10T14:54:06Z")
Next episode: "My BS is underpowered because I couldnt hit a Condor with its expensive guns. Pls buff" ---
**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/69 "2020-02-10T20:47:44Z")
Next episode already happend > [@Make sense of this Battle for me](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-sense-of-this-battle-for-me/46375): > > I am completing the Rogue Swarm Holiday fest… I see another pilot doing the same. Fun times. Then this 3rd Pilot, “Aunt Tom” comes in and is firing at the other pilot. Haste move, and I’m sitting in my BATTLESHIP Fully armed with 6 -200mm AutoCannons and 1 dual Anode Particle Stream. Fusion ammo. Again, my Apocalypse BATTLESHIP, I scan the Pilot and see a Vexor who is half damaged, So I lock on. Trying to stop the “picking on noobs so that New Eden can make it past 2019”… This is 7K HP vs 1… ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/70 "2020-02-11T02:58:48Z")
@Ramona_McCandless and @Magalaus_Shardani, it’s obvious neither of you understood the point. I’m not complaining that I couldn’t hit the Ishtar (actually, as I said, I _COULD_ hit the Ishtar). In fact, I’m not complaining about anything. I’m fine with the result, the outcome. I tried, I didn’t succeed, but I’m also no worse for the wear and didn’t lose anything. No worries. I’m not even complaining that there’s any imbalance in what transpired. The people screaming “imba!” are the anti-capship, anti-carrier folks. I’m just asking, if the carrier is so imba and OP, why can it not even kill an AFK-Ishtar? I know, I know. You’ll say because I couldn’t hit it. And I’ll repeat for the hundredth time that I _COULD_ hit it, that I _DID_ hit it. You’ll say because I didn’t know what I was doing. And I’ll say if the ship is that OP, do I really have to have PhD level knowledge of what I’m doing? Isn’t the definition of OP that you can pretty much faceroll stuff without trying? Like, if the carrier is that OP, shouldn’t you be able to munch on pizza with one hand, hold the remote control in the other, watch netflix, and look at your screen every now and then just to make sure everything is progressing as it should? ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/71 "2020-02-11T03:52:33Z")
I’m a little… _confused_ First you state: > [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > First off, I’m not a troll, although I am accused of being one on every post. but then, in the very next sentence you say: > [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > Don’t get me wrong, there ARE a lot of trolls on this forum, and you can see them posting **in this very post.** (Emphasis added by me) Which leads us to the only obvious conclusion… you **are** a troll… ? I mean, if it’s possible to see the troll posting in _your_ post, you must be… or you are just way **more** confused than me… either way interesting times for sure! Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/72 "2020-02-11T09:33:17Z")
He stated he had me blocked too, but he’s clearly just lying. He also doesnt seem to grasp that there are varying degrees of hitting something, not just yes or no. ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/73 "2020-02-12T05:09:38Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > He stated he had me blocked too, but he’s clearly just lying. Your name rings a bell. If memory serves, I did block some people in the past, and one of them might have been you. Either way, I don’t see a function here to block posters, so either I’m missing it, or it was the old forums. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/74 "2020-02-12T07:56:10Z")
Fair dos. I think really most people dont really get 1. where are these people saying carriers are OP? 2. why do you care what they think? ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/75 "2020-02-12T09:18:24Z")
1. A lot of them are so-called ‘nano-gangers’ who like to roam around in small ships (frigs and cruisers) to kill things, and they get upset if they can’t easily kill something big (carrier, dreadnought, titan). Some of them just hate big ships and like small ones. They picture themselves as Luke Skywalker going against a Deathstar in a frigate. Some of them have what I consider to be strange ideas on game balance, and have certain fanatical beliefs which they translate into rallying cries, like “bigger should not mean better!” (nevermind that bigger should not mean worse either - the logic of that naturally escapes them). 2. I don’t care what they think. They are a lost cause. I care about what others who hang around the forums and who might listen to them think. So why do I care what _those_ people think? Because I think CCP balances according to forum whine. I don’t like balance according to forum whine, so I lend my own voice in opposition whenever I have occasion to over the years. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/76 "2020-02-12T09:30:49Z")
Fair dos. Each to their own. Personally, I think carriers would be more fun if they worked like actual aircraft carriers, but then I also fail to understand why Dreads arent Dreadnaughts either. Ah well. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/77 "2020-02-12T10:28:47Z")
In what way do dreadnaughts not live up to their name? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/78 "2020-02-12T10:41:15Z")
In nearly every way. ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/79 "2020-02-13T03:11:01Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > where are these people saying carriers are OP? Sorry, I misread that as _who_ are these people saying carriers are OP, not _where_ are these people… I must confess, I haven’t seen any of them on the forums lately. There were lots of posters and lots of posts in the past. Surely you must have seen some, as you’ve been around for a while. I think these forums are drying up. ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Pleiadian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adrian_pleiadian/32/368732_2.png) [@Adrian\_Pleiadian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adrian_Pleiadian)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/80 "2020-02-13T06:18:39Z")
Confirmed, you are no troll, just saw this very good pvper failing to kill an afk ishtar aswell and saying how stupidly strong they are. Sorry for saying you were not properly using a carrier. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/81 "2020-02-13T11:13:43Z")
Its cool. I think I know what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![Aetran\_Molou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aetran_molou/32/278496_2.png) [@Aetran\_Molou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aetran_Molou)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219/82 "2020-02-13T11:33:23Z")
No way this isn’t a troll thread. The idea of a carrier warping onto a ratting ishtar to kill it is the funniest image I’ve had in a while. I’m not even trying to be rude, but why would you try to use a carrier as a tackling ship? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carriers-too-stronk-waaaaah/218219.md?page=5)