# Carrots and sticks

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 6, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785 "2020-10-06T15:50:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/21 "2020-10-06T16:20:31Z")

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> [@Flanidia](#):
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> > [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#):
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> > Well a stick is more useful than a carrot unless you’re hungry.
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> That does seem to be part of the policy

Policy? I wasn’t talking about policy.

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**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/22 "2020-10-06T16:20:59Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> What’s your point? By percentage of activity it may be small, but as a selling point for the game and driver of other activities it is very important.

Assuming facts not in evidence.

But fanbois gotta fanboi. Do carry on.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/23 "2020-10-06T16:23:31Z")

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> [@Flanidia](#):
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> I am not offended. But when you say you’ve corrected it and haven’t come close…well that’s amusing.

Considering that he’s not a native English speaker I’d say he does pretty well, he’s certainly better at English than I am at Brazilian Portuguese.

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**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/24 "2020-10-06T16:24:04Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Considering that he’s not a native English speaker I’d say he does pretty well, he’s certainly better at English than I am at Brazilian Portuguese.

Nationality has nothing to do with the use of logical fallacies.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/25 "2020-10-06T16:24:29Z")

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> [@Flanidia](#):
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> Assuming facts not in evidence.

Not in evidence? Other than CCP’s constant advertising and publicity articles about “BIGGEST NULLSEC WAR EVER”?

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/26 "2020-10-06T16:24:44Z")

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> [@Flanidia](#):
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> > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> > What’s your point? By percentage of activity it may be small, but as a selling point for the game and driver of other activities it is very important.
> 
> Assuming facts not in evidence.
> 
> But fanbois gotta fanboi. Do carry on.

What’s the point of this thread?

Seems to me you just try to insult anyone that doesn’t agree with your view. Hardly a starting point for any kind of civil discussion. Not that the opening post has anything really to discuss.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/27 "2020-10-06T16:25:23Z")

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/28 "2020-10-06T16:25:27Z")

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I wasn’t addressing a logical fallacy, I was addressing you taking the piss out of his English skills.

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**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/29 "2020-10-06T16:26:16Z")

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Then you didn’t read my entire reply.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/30 "2020-10-06T16:35:26Z")

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This isn’t an echo chamber, you dismissing people as fanbois for disagreeing with you suggests that you have nothing and the whole thread is an exercise in embiggening your own ego.

Go back to facebook.

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**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/31 "2020-10-06T16:36:34Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> This isn’t an echo chamber, you dismissing people as fanbois for disagreeing with you suggests that you have nothing and the whole thread is an exercise in embiggening your own ego.

What arguments have been made do you think?

You are also free to spend your time elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/32 "2020-10-06T16:36:59Z")

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> [@Flanidia](#):
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> What arguments have been made do you think?

The fact that CCP uses large nullsec fights as a major marketing tool, which you dismissed as “FANBOYS LOLOLOLOL”.

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**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/33 "2020-10-06T16:38:05Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> The fact that CCP uses large nullsec fights as a major marketing tool, which you dismissed as “FANBOYS LOLOLOLOL”.

Actually that came after (in sequence). And CCP’s marketing is like all marketing. It contains a grain of truth but it is hardly “central to the game.”

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/34 "2020-10-06T16:39:29Z")

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What’s your point? CCP’s marketing is not 100% honest (like everyone) but that doesn’t change the fact that CCP uses large nullsec fights as a major marketing point, giving them importance beyond their percentage of total EVE activity.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/35 "2020-10-06T16:41:35Z")

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i have a old mac , the fans as broken and it overheat . ill use the new feature a lot .

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/36 "2020-10-06T16:43:19Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/carrots-and-sticks/271785/37 "2020-10-06T16:43:27Z")

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