# CCP, an idea to metric what users you have **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165 "2019-08-14T13:21:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/85 "2019-08-14T18:58:10Z")
This thread started on relatively shakey ground and devolved into some sort of rancid jello wrestling match of insults and accusations… So, pretty much following SOP in regards to these forums. Well, I guess it is the Chaos Age per CCP; let the “discussion” continue! ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Xavis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paul_xavis/32/152086_2.png) [@Paul\_Xavis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paul_Xavis)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/86 "2019-08-14T19:13:03Z")
> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#): > > This thread started on relatively shakey ground and devolved into some sort of rancid jello wrestling match of insults and accusations… Nah, it’s only elite forum PvP 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/88 "2019-08-14T19:31:38Z")
You should see a Star Wars fan forum. We are NOTHING and they are our GODS I mean Star Trek Wait which is the one with Dr Spoch? ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/89 "2019-08-14T19:37:01Z")
> [@Inactive\_Seller](#): > > I think you can get a nice glimpse of what is thinking the prople who Spent money. Null people with very big reserves maybe not spending (Malcanis Law), and the people who pay many accounts with MONEY Leaving. I find your assumption that CCP doesn’t already have that data/metric quite funny. ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/90 "2019-08-14T19:39:15Z")
I never had that assumption. Probably not all the metrics are shared between CCP asreas. Sometimes in my own work, my customers ask for metrics other people in the business have. I talk about an idea, nver imply they dont have anything, but think, that metric can be useful, and dont matter if they have or not have it. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/91 "2019-08-14T20:16:59Z")
> [@Inactive\_Seller](#): > > I never had that assumption. Eh? - The opener of OP is offtopic/irrelevant - The pseudocode is useless - you can already see **account creation date** and **amount of money spent** AND last time you spent money in your account management (transaction history) and thats stuff they allow you to see. Data can be easily aggregated and combined/transformed into whatever metric they need. - The very suggestion to add something implies that they dont have it already. So what does that leave of your “suggestion”? ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/92 "2019-08-14T20:21:50Z")
1 ) False. Is general 2 ) We, in specific accounts., Not CCP people who need the metrics. The problem of normalization in excess is the reason of create additional fields. PSeudos code is MSSQL codes. 3 ) No, sorry. Someone can ask for something they dont know they have amd you show the solution. Many times happen. I am suggesting a metric and dont think is useful to readers. Only to ccp and is labeled in that way. And the idea of use a metric to check the effect in payed accounts. ( In the cyno threads i am seeing many people asking if CCP is trying to cash out an insurance policy.) I vote with my wallet and reduce to Two accoiunts omega when the actual expire. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/93 "2019-08-14T20:27:58Z")
> [@Inactive\_Seller](#): > > False. Is general Why are you posting suggestions in general? > [@Inactive\_Seller](#): > > We, in specific accounts., Not CCP people who need the metrics. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/3/0306ae93c1ae054b1a8e0bfd7df194cd65a4a6ce.png) ---
**Author:** ![Rhys\_Seico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhys_seico/32/153766_2.png) [@Rhys\_Seico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhys_Seico)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/94 "2019-08-14T20:32:19Z")
As I said earlier: All his babble is just nothing more than “WAAAAHHH!” while trying to look really intelligent and important. And I’m sure in his own mind it’s working. ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/95 "2019-08-14T20:37:06Z")
@ms_steak For Visibility. @Rhys_seico The facts talking themselves. You can take an opinion of other people toughts, but the facts are the things than matter. Putting exclamations os words in other people mouths is a waste of time. I spoke as a service and nothing more. You can do whatever you want, but the facts remain. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/96 "2019-08-14T20:40:40Z")
> [@Inactive\_Seller](#): > > The facts talking themselves. No they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/97 "2019-08-14T20:41:49Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > No they don’t. Yes, in both cases. Your insults and bad words. and in the world. You can calling red the blue or blue the red, but facts are facts. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/98 "2019-08-14T20:47:10Z")
Wait, so you want to be able to see if someone else is a paid account, and by how much? So you can, what? ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/99 "2019-08-14T20:50:04Z")
@ramona_mccandless No, i say CCP maybe want check that metric. Your affirmation is false. As example , I spent 2100 USD aprox without problems last three years. Can be useful the dat for CCP. Not needed for anymore. Maybe someone here dont show support paying to CCP in cash, but the support to cash can be measured for them, by them, and not have meaning for me and i dont ask, need or want know / not interest if some can can pay a subscription or not. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/100 "2019-08-14T20:50:32Z")
They have that data already. /thread ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/101 "2019-08-14T20:51:53Z")
Ummm… shroedinger cat. And can be useful for people of difernt areas that data. I dont know if they use or not use that data, the existence is not relevant. The idea uis can be generated for them, by them, and can be a reality, dont matter if someone not look. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/102 "2019-08-14T20:53:24Z")
Of course they have it. And how they use it is literally their business. I dont see what this thread is about. ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/103 "2019-08-14T20:53:52Z")
Is about a suggestion to other areas to CCP. Its all. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/104 "2019-08-14T20:55:32Z")
Then it should be in the Ideas & Suggestions section Youve quoted forum rules enough to know that ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165/105 "2019-08-14T20:56:52Z")
As i say before to you less than 10 minutes ago, i put here for visibility. I quote the harrasment and trolling policies because are relevant. You can ask if u want to be moved of forum. If CCP leave here, is yer decision and i think is good for visibilyt. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-an-idea-to-metric-what-users-you-have/182165.md?page=6)