# CCP and the Driffters **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 30, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640 "2019-06-30T01:41:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/359 "2019-07-05T12:24:56Z")
When did I say that skippy? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/360 "2019-07-05T13:14:00Z")
Are you really complaining tasting a little bit of your own medicine? 🙂 That’s funny 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/361 "2019-07-05T13:15:27Z")
Actually no i’m not, that would just be you guessing at things. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/362 "2019-07-05T13:17:09Z")
Well most of the guesses i made over the years seems to be right atm. But the troll taunting has surprisingly stopped recently…surely a coincidence… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/365 "2019-07-05T13:23:20Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > seems i was right all the time about what ccp would (and had to) do Great then you should have ZERO problem linking to, oh let’s say three of these claims from, oh 3 years ago minimum. You make the claim…walk the walk… ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/366 "2019-07-05T13:23:37Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > > [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > > > I have no empathy with people like you, with your false outrage and virtue signalling. Just to be clear - it wasn’t me who said that, it was Dracvlad. _Why an earth would anyone flag this simple factual correction as ‘off-topic’ !!_ ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/369 "2019-07-05T13:31:18Z")
Whatever you say. Keep patting yourrself on the back to make you fell better. 🙂 Will not help but if you feel better Vlad… ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/370 "2019-07-05T14:18:21Z")
LOL… No arguments left? So typical ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/371 "2019-07-05T14:22:23Z")
What’s there to argue about? All you did was say “look how right I am” and then not prove anything…like a child. So typical ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/372 "2019-07-05T14:47:14Z")
Seriously though, you need to be able to probe them down and see them on D-scan and they sort of need a mechanism like FOB’s that give you a period of relief. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/373 "2019-07-05T17:04:17Z")
then we need to get rid of the jumpclone per structure cap ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/374 "2019-07-05T19:28:58Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > What’s there to argue about? All you did was say “look how right I am” and then not prove anything…like a child. > > So typical You mean like you and your comrades did for 15 years? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/376 "2019-07-06T04:54:50Z")
Undocking in Eve is consenting to interact with the game environment, both PvP and PvE. ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Bete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_bete/32/279036_2.png) [@Nick\_Bete](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Bete)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/377 "2019-07-06T05:29:48Z")
CCP didn’t consult with the average high sec dweller before unleashing the advanced AI NPCs on us so why should you guys get special treatment? Also, what DMC above me said 1000x. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/378 "2019-07-06T06:14:05Z")
but they at least told you about it first. and this is NOT just advanced ai. we could deal with that and it would be kool. no. this is more like having CONCORD randomly attacking stuff all over ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/379 "2019-07-06T06:19:55Z")
You have bothered researching their actual stats right. Not just talking with no evidence at all right… ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/380 "2019-07-06T06:22:03Z")
uh, yeah, they do roughly 13-1600 DPS, grid range, do 3k m/s A/B speed, with the sig of a frigate. and pretty much perfect tracking. also invisible to dscan and combat probes. so yeah, it’s a bit OP ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/381 "2019-07-06T06:27:23Z")
So no… You don’t have their actual stats. Go and loom their stats up first. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/382 "2019-07-06T06:35:26Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > You have bothered researching their actual stats right. Have you? You seem to be so sure that what’s occuring is no different to what others have been facing for months. Have you actually checked? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/383 "2019-07-06T06:39:35Z")
Sure, I’m going to fly out to null with my capital into some random alliances space and trust them not to kill me… And then have any tests I do dismissed as lacking sufficient evidence… Because well it would lack evidence being a single datapoint. Or I could be using the npc stat databases out there that show no difference for the relevant npcs. Just you know, a thought. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640.md?page=19)