# CCP and the Driffters **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 30, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640 "2019-06-30T01:41:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/143 "2019-07-04T05:12:17Z")
> [@Grognard\_Commissar](#): > > pretty sure TEST is signing onto the embargo like the rest of null. Yeah, and this is why I said: > The only thing that remains is how much balls CCP has and whether or not they’re willing to give up total control of the game to some whiney carebears or whether they’re gonna take back EVE Online as actual developers. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/144 "2019-07-04T05:13:00Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > The only thing that remains is how much balls CCP has and whether or not they’re willing to give up total control of the game to some whiney carebears or whether they’re gonna take back EVE Online as actual developers. you realize “null carebears” are well over 50% of active palyers in eve ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/146 "2019-07-04T05:14:30Z")
> [@Starflame\_Kumamato](#): > > says the guy that’s probably never left the safety net of concord hisec. This is the most funny thing in all of this. So many armchair hullseccers from high-sec 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/148 "2019-07-04T05:16:15Z")
You see ive never lived in sov lol, you know f’ all. To date i have lived in Fountain Fade Cloud Ring Period basis pure blind malpais etherium reach insmother quierious scalding pass catch i’ve also lived in several different wormholes, low and highsec. I had been playing for 12 years. Your wrong basically, but well; guess that was obvious the moment you started posting. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/150 "2019-07-04T05:18:05Z")
oh here we go, the block posts war… even the forums are driving players away now. gg. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/151 "2019-07-04T05:19:24Z")
wasn’t me, m8. i don’t play that way ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/152 "2019-07-04T05:20:16Z")
And here come the report brigades. > [@Grognard\_Commissar](#): > > most hisec players would lump you in with us “carebears” That’s nice. I don’t quite care what highsec players think. EVE has been in need of a shake up and we’re finally getting it. It’s just that some of us a choosing to enjoy the unrelenting crying and whining about a bunch of krabs who are all too used to treating EVE like a facebook clicker game of “log in, krab, log out” rinse and repeat each day. We’re finally getting, it’s been a long time coming, and instead of embracing it, everyone is freaking out since they can’t watch the numbers in their wallet go up without anymore risk. ---
**Author:** ![Tirin\_Turambar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirin_turambar/32/142893_2.png) [@Tirin\_Turambar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirin_Turambar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/153 "2019-07-04T05:20:20Z")
Where is the love? ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/154 "2019-07-04T05:21:03Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > EVE has been in need of a shake up i would agree. but this is not it at all. it’s going to have the opposite effect > [@Tirin\_Turambar](#): > > Where is the love? vOv hell if i know ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/155 "2019-07-04T05:22:21Z")
> [@Starflame\_Kumamato](#): > > i play eve for PLAYER interaction. And you can still do that. > [@Starflame\_Kumamato](#): > > most pve has ways of DRIVING PLAYER INTERACTION. Which is exactly what’s happening. > [@Starflame\_Kumamato](#): > > not drifters. they’s literally the opposite of what eve is supposed to be. eve is mostly supposed to be risk vs reward. drifters are really missing half that equation, while going almost all out on the other. Welcome to Eve. Now you know what High Sec players have been dealing with for years. > [@Starflame\_Kumamato](#): > > it’s not “fun” it’s not content. it’s simply a nuisance, and frankly, something that really is going to push null players towards other games. Yeah it was ok for High Sec players to deal with it but now that the shoe is on the other foot, all of a sudden it’s not ok. Quite frankly, what’s been said to High Sec for years also applies to Null Sec, HTFU and deal with it or just leave. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/156 "2019-07-04T05:22:37Z")
> [@Grognard\_Commissar](#): > > i would agree. but this is not it at all. No, you just want a “shake up” that is nothing more than a lucrative farming opportunity to make you even more wealthy, whether it be by ISK or assets. No one likes “surprises”, they only the surprises that are good for them. Well, it’s finally time to eat your vegetables. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/157 "2019-07-04T05:23:42Z")
uh, no. hisec was always supposed to be low risk low reward. drifters are high-risk, zero reward. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/160 "2019-07-04T05:37:02Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > This is the most funny thing in all of this. So many armchair hullseccers from high-sec 😃 What’s funny is seeing all the tears from supposedly leet Null Sec players who for years have constantly told High Sec to HTFU . > [@Grognard\_Commissar](#): > > > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > > > The only thing that remains is how much balls CCP has and whether or not they’re willing to give up total control of the game to some whiney carebears or whether they’re gonna take back EVE Online as actual developers. > > you realize “null carebears” are well over 50% of active palyers in eve Please post proof. Or it’s just some more BS. > [@Grognard\_Commissar](#): > > uh, no. hisec was always supposed to be low risk low reward. drifters are high-risk, zero reward. High Sec has been dealing with all kinds of Advanced AI for quite a while, it’s time the big bad Null Sec wrecking machine deal with it. > [@March\_rabbit](#): > > Offtopic is offtopic no matter if you like it or not. > > If blocking garbage posts can drive you off … And now your posts will also be flagged as well. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/161 "2019-07-04T05:38:33Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > High Sec has been dealing with all kinds of Advanced AI for quite a while, it’s time the big bad Null Sec wrecking machine deal with it. oh, you mean the mining fleets? they at least give a decent reward. same with the triglavians. drivers yield ■■■■ salvage, and don’t drop anything ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/162 "2019-07-04T05:41:13Z")
Most players in High Sec don’t have the resources of a super large Alliance to deal with it and have learned to adapt. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/163 "2019-07-04T05:42:10Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Most players in High Sec Don’t give yourself too much credit. Drifters aren’t going to Reinforcing structures left and right in empire space. So what little you’ve had to “adapt” to has been peanuts. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/164 "2019-07-04T05:46:32Z")
Don’t make it out like it’s easy peasy for High Sec, Drifters have destroyed structures in High Sec. EDIT: And like I said, most High Sec players don’t have the resources like Null Sec has. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/165 "2019-07-04T05:46:51Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Drifters have destroyed structures in High Sec. Show me the lossmails or sit down. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/166 "2019-07-04T05:48:04Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > What’s funny is seeing all the tears from supposedly leet Null Sec players who for years have constantly told High Sec to HTFU . To be honest from reading Forums and Reddit i have got a feeling that it’s more like 90v10. I mean something like 90 posts “blah-blah nullseccer tears” vs 10 with actual discussion about this “expansion”. And most of the time supporters can only provide wishful thinking. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > And now your posts will also be flagged as well. Yeah. Discussing offtopic is offtopic too. Personally i would just close this thread. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-and-the-driffters/170640/167 "2019-07-04T05:48:24Z")
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