# CCP Cancels WIS and then Tease It... šŸ‘€ **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076 "2022-11-18T20:25:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/21 "2022-11-18T21:41:21Z")
Iā€™d like walking in station but if there is no way to invite anyone for a game of chess or drunken storytelling then itā€™s pretty useless. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/22 "2022-11-18T21:42:01Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Literally no one wants WiS. You write ā€œno oneā€, but what youā€™re actually saying is ā€œus NPCs that spend all day lurking the forum to gripe about the game we donā€™t play.ā€ Mr Epeen šŸ•¶ ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/23 "2022-11-18T21:58:14Z")
WIS was stopped and removed because there were not enough players actually using the Captainā€™s quarters. Which in an exaggerated sense means, nearly no one. I would much rather their talent be put into making the new hangers work properly and extended to all stations, not just Upwell. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/24 "2022-11-18T22:08:53Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Just because WiS was a terrible, incomplete and cynical addition (it was really just an alpha test bed for WoD) doesnā€™t mean the concept itself is flawed. Okay, so WiS was indeed overhyped, incomplete, and badly implemented. And the low usage numbers reflected the bad implementation at least as much as lack of player interest. It would have done better if it had _been_ done better, so to speak. That said, the concept itself _is_ somewhat flawed - at least for EVE. Since the game has no actual ā€˜groundā€™ component (unlike Star Trek Online, for instance), and everything consequential to your character can be done fast and easy from your pod, WiS would end up as ā€œa feature looking for a purposeā€. It would be used by a small percent of players who just want to see something different, but the majority of players will stick to the interface they know with the least time spent fiddling around. About the only thing I can think of that would get significant numbers of players out of their pods and interacting in-station is if CCP set up actual ā€œgames of chanceā€ in a bar-like setting and let people gamble only in that setting. Sort of like the old EVE Poker/gambling websites moved in-game. And of course, that comes with itā€™s own host of legal/moral issues. ---
**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/25 "2022-11-18T22:43:50Z")
In station gun fights is what is needed. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/26 "2022-11-18T22:48:55Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > About the only thing I can think of that would get significant numbers of players out of their pods and interacting in-station is if CCP set up actual ā€œgames of chanceā€ in a bar-like setting and let people gamble only in that setting. Sort of like the old EVE Poker/gambling websites moved in-game. This I would be down for. ---
**Author:** ![Jaina\_Bustmoore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaina_bustmoore/32/344086_2.png) [@Jaina\_Bustmoore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaina_Bustmoore)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/27 "2022-11-18T22:57:48Z")
> [@Azazod](#): > > In station gun fights is what is needed. AKA DUST in SPACE integrated with EVEā€¦ which was my dream of WIS was leading toā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/28 "2022-11-18T23:37:35Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > WIS was stopped and removed because there were not enough players actually using the Captainā€™s quarters. Thatā€™s not true at all. The Captainā€™s Quarters were minimal so we didnā€™t have a reason to use them much. > [@Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](#): > > How was WiS teased in that video? What does the background look like to you? * * * ![Pulse November 18](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/1/8610d4a651ef8e8f71edbdcbde9d4f72097b2628.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/29 "2022-11-18T23:52:57Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > Thatā€™s not true at all. The Captainā€™s Quarters were minimal so we didnā€™t have a reason to use them much. What about that is untrue? You canā€™t just say something and then contradict it? ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/30 "2022-11-18T23:54:30Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > What about that is untrue? Itā€™s not the reason WiS was scrapped. It had nothing to do with people using the Captainā€™s Quarters. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/31 "2022-11-18T23:58:12Z")
> **[EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captains-quarters-twitch-integration)** > > Player-created empires, player-driven markets, and endless ways to embark on your personal sci-fi adventure. ā€œAfter reviewing the usage statistics for captainā€™s quarters, we can see that the development time involved in maintaining the current state of the feature is significantly disproportionate to the number of pilots using the feature.ā€ _cough_ _cough_ ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/32 "2022-11-19T00:12:46Z")
You can glean what you wish from that article. > maintaining the current state of the feature > if we were to commit to advancing walking in stations in the future, then the existing captainā€™s quarters and its underlying software would need to be removed from the client and rebuilt from scratch regardless. 2017-07-12 - BY CCP FALCON On a side note, when was the last time we got a straight answer from CCP? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/33 "2022-11-19T00:21:57Z")
Doesnā€™t change the fact that itā€™s not popular. Walking in Stations, if expanded beyond CQ would be just as wasteful. They created that background ever since they started changing the Jita 4-4 station over a year ago, this is not the first pulse episode b with it in a long shot. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/34 "2022-11-19T00:46:23Z")
If you wanna walk in stations, play NMS šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/35 "2022-11-19T01:05:23Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > If you wanna walk in stations They shouldnā€™t have waved the carrotā€¦ * * * ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/36 "2022-11-19T01:28:53Z")
I found a picture of the power source CCP used while developing WiS. * * * ![Eve WIS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/7/a/87a1a0a17a590e8f72ae80b52be4c628491fce2b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/37 "2022-11-19T01:41:43Z")
Walking in stations is never going to happen. Period. Feel free to come back and quote me any time right up until the day the server shuts downā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/38 "2022-11-19T01:52:34Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Walking in stations is never going to happen. Period. Avatar based gameplay is all but guaranteed considering Pearl Abyss is the owner. They are masters of it and they would like to see a hundred thousand plus online average rather than fifteen thousand as it is now. Iā€™m guessing weā€™ll see it sooner rather than later. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if they have had a team working on it for the last few years. Want to make a friendly bet? Your wishful thinking against my common sense? Mr Epeen šŸ•¶ ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/39 "2022-11-19T01:56:59Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > all but guaranteed Agreed. * * * +1 ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/40 "2022-11-19T02:11:18Z")
At that point, EVE wouldnā€™t be EVE anymore. Youā€™d have an even bigger cash shop and players running around with cat ears and pets. I want no part of that. So, again, feel free to quote me. Theyā€™ve had over 10 years to change a single line of text in a tutorial mission that would keep players from asking a thousand questions about it every single day and havenā€™t even been able to manage that. So no, walking in stations is not happening any time soonā€¦ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076.md?page=3)