# CCP Cancels WIS and then Tease It... 👀

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 18, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076 "2022-11-18T20:25:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/41 "2022-11-19T02:16:33Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> I want no part of that…

I don’t think that’s going to factor into their roadmap.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/42 "2022-11-19T02:20:44Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> EVE wouldn’t be EVE anymore

The cow’s already out of the barn. Do you remember, “We’ll NEVER get away from ‘time-based’ training”? AKA: We will never allow SP manipulation.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/43 "2022-11-19T02:53:19Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Literally no one wants WiS.

It might lead to fraternising with the enemy. I think that’s the _real_ reason they won’t introduce it. If everyone’s having tea and scones in the stations alongside gankers and wardec targets and that annoying guy who bumps all the miners…people might be less inclined to blap them on undocking. And we can’t have that. Sort of like when they played football in the trenches in WW1…which the generals soon put a stop to.

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**Author:** ![Zeta\_Prime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeta_prime/32/339125_2.png) [@Zeta\_Prime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zeta_Prime)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/45 "2022-11-19T06:45:10Z")

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Do not try to speak for everyone

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**Author:** ![W\_B\_Lamington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/w_b_lamington/32/406196_2.png) [@W\_B\_Lamington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/W_B_Lamington)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/46 "2022-11-19T08:24:12Z")

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We want WiS. It’s TiS that we don’t want…

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/47 "2022-11-19T09:52:56Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> You write “no one”, but what you’re actually saying is “us NPCs that spend all day lurking the forum to gripe about the game we don’t play.”
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> Mr Epeen 🕶

lmao …

Apparently, he’s too busy staying docked in Bhizheba…

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/48 "2022-11-19T10:19:02Z")

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PSA: If your logic is “the old version of WiS (which sucked becaus EVE was in a bad place at the time) sucked therefore the idea of WiS sucks” you’re not only dumb, you’re also disingenuous. Don’t be that person.

If you don’t LIKE WiS as a concept that’s completely fine but don’t use dumb fallacies.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/49 "2022-11-19T11:26:19Z")

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Once spaceships exploding is removed everyone will be glad of it.

Maybe theyll put mini games in it where you can explode ships, but I doubt it as that might encourage “the wrong crowd”

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/50 "2022-11-19T11:35:29Z")

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> [@Zeta\_Prime](#):
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> Do not try to speak for everyone

And yet in the end, it is what’s best for everyone 😃

WiS would be a giant waste of time.

Tell me, would you rather more content in space, ships, and EVE life in general or be able to spend plex to shade your walls in your captain’s quarters?

> [@W\_B\_Lamington](#):
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> We want WiS. It’s TiS that we don’t want…

Oh no, more talking in local is better 😃

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**Author:** ![Trinity\_Trifecta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trinity_trifecta/32/318905_2.png) [@Trinity\_Trifecta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trinity_Trifecta)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/51 "2022-11-19T11:59:29Z")

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wrong I believe the game would have been much much bigger had it had full avatars from launch I tried it in beta I believe and the lack of an avatar caused me not to consider the game again for about 10 years before I gave it another try and even then the lack of an avatar was a hurdle that I had to overcome

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/52 "2022-11-19T12:08:11Z")

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back them wen i played wow i had a friend, she was a chick from Rio , she just like to play dress up with her char and chat in the city , i think there is market for this …

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/53 "2022-11-19T12:35:11Z")

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There is a HUGE market for RP in the cyberpunk genre and ccp could really go all in with the cosmetics here …

It wouldn’t take away from space but add more variety in the playerbase.

Capsuleers that want to duke it out in space can still do so, and we could even have perks to having those kinds of players in station, Im seeing Entertainers ala Star Wars Galaxies for ep …

More playstyle diversity is good for any game, and attracts an audience.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/54 "2022-11-19T12:36:39Z")

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And already this morning I get the, “You’re almost outta likes today”. 😭 Why do they limit you to 30 likes a day? That’s not many for 24 hours IMO.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/55 "2022-11-19T12:46:46Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> WiS would be a giant waste of time.

Im really starting to wonder if you’re even mentally capable of considering or let alone imagine different points of view ?

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/56 "2022-11-19T13:01:11Z")

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Yes, I’ve been saying this for a while. Maybe we should look into the “block” feature…

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/57 "2022-11-19T13:13:37Z")

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It’s Done.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/58 "2022-11-19T13:19:03Z")

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Only if its meaningful like get out your ship with a a weapon and go raid someones station or citadel as a FPS, if its just walking around super slowly in captains quarters then the question is why?

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/59 "2022-11-19T13:25:50Z")

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I tried to like that @ResonanceOfWar .

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 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/f/cbfc974cfbe445180fcdf2dd47568804776c681e.png)

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WiS should be great for activities like, spying, scamming, tricking, and yes…I would like to see the “ **kill feature** ” at some point.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/60 "2022-11-19T13:44:23Z")

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Who would you ‘scam in WiS’ if all trades in this game happen with contracts and market transactions in the spaceship part of the game?

Who would you ‘spy on in WiS’ if all the things worth spying on happen either in the spaceship part of the game or not even in the game at all, but in alliance discords and other third party communication tools?

Walking in stations sure could look great and add more immersion, but I don’t see how having a third person view of a character walking around would add to the core spaceship gameplay of EVE.

WiS would never be more than some side-content and won’t become part of the core gameplay of EVE without significantly changing the nature of this game.

Instead I recommend -if you are looking for third person character gameplay- that you find another game to play, one that has third person view science fiction gameplay as their core gameplay as that which will most likely be much more in depth than any side addon to EVE’s spaceship gameplay could be.

I like Warframe for my third person walking around in space stations (and spying) gameplay, so if you’re looking for something like that, maybe give that game a try!

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/61 "2022-11-19T13:48:51Z")

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No one wants WiS except forum trolls.

I understand, mining is a bot activity like doing abyss or running L4s, you need something to do that resembles a game and having fun…  
BUT  
WiS is not the solution.

Topic closed.

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