# CCP Cancels WIS and then Tease It... 👀 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076 "2022-11-18T20:25:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/62 "2022-11-19T13:53:17Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Who would you ‘scam in WiS’ if all trades in this game happen with contracts and market transactions Well, they could make it where you have to sit down and discuss certain transactions. > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Who would you ‘spy on in WiS’ if all the things worth spying on happen either in the spaceship part of the game I was thinking about an “eavesdrop” feature
 * * * > [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > WiS is not the solution. May I ask, how long have you been playing Eve Online and have you tried anything besides ganking? Also, are you one of Aiko’s alts? * * * ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/63 "2022-11-19T13:57:48Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > Well, they could make it where you have to sit down and discuss certain transactions. I much prefer the way we do transactions now, instantly, regardless of who is online, in space by setting up a contract No need to add a WiS-sit-down-talk-to-the-other-party-if-they-are-even-online-in-your-timezone-session for every contract. WiS would be a downgrade for transactions. > [@x123xxx](#): > > > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > > > Who would you ‘spy on in WiS’ if all the things worth spying on happen either in the spaceship part of the game > > I was thinking about an “eavesdrop” feature
 How do you propose you evesdrop on a discord channel that you don’t have rights on via WiS? I hear a lot of fantasy, little realism. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/64 "2022-11-19T13:58:08Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Oh no, more talking in local is better I cite Jita as counter-evidence exhibit A. Even in corp chat, there are some who just rabbit away all day and one wonders if they ever actually play the game. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/65 "2022-11-19T13:58:26Z")
No, you are not allowed to ask, but you are allowed to buy a permit. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/66 "2022-11-19T13:59:15Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Only if its meaningful like get out your ship with a a weapon and go raid someones station or citadel as a FPS, if its just walking around super slowly in captains quarters then the question is why? dress up flirt with the girls show off get a fake gf to chat at night pretend to have fiends perv stuff like final fantasy waifu ■■■■ I’m not the public for that wink wink 
 but they say there is a giant market 
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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/67 "2022-11-19T14:02:04Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > How do you propose you evesdrop on a discord channel It would have to be within “Eve Voice”
obviously. The contract idea would be for times that you want to “question a contract”. One that’s, “too good to be true” for instance. Just spit-balling, no need to be rude
 > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I hear a lot of fantasy, little realism. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/68 "2022-11-19T14:12:41Z")
Not trying to be rude, just realistic. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/69 "2022-11-19T14:19:32Z")
CCP looooooves to waste millions in new games them cancel doing a dress up glorified chat room for the only game they really have could not be that bad of an idea imagine today the devs say the plans for EVE in the next years are 1. back to super hardcore pvp , scam , brutal game 2. back to real stock Exchange level market 3. back to players build all the stuff 4. social ■■■■ in stations we have a winner ---
**Author:** ![Zeta\_Prime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeta_prime/32/339125_2.png) [@Zeta\_Prime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zeta_Prime)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/70 "2022-11-19T14:34:51Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > And yet in the end, it is what’s best for everyone 😃 > > WiS would be a giant waste of time. > > Tell me, would you rather more content in space, ships, and EVE life in general or be able to spend plex to shade your walls in your captain’s quarters? Again, do not try to speak for everyone, and do not try to define What is Entertainment for everyone. Some people get satisfaction from sharp ship skins, some people want high quality visual, some people feel alive in captain’s quarters. If you are a product manager or game designer, I would tell you do not misunderstand your opinion as actual user requirement, or try to ‘educate’ your clients how to play a game ---
**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/71 "2022-11-19T14:51:15Z")
I want it, and half my mates that left eve wanted that Human avatar experience, which was a lot easier to adjust to when coming from nearly any other MMO. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/73 "2022-11-19T16:56:07Z")
I am against WiS mostly because it would take away from the rest of the game. CCP can only do so much in a given time, why ask for something that will take a TON of resources to make and optimize. They’ve started it already, but most of the population (97%) had it turned it off, either due to having old PCs, poor optimization, or just plain not liking it. Why would them trying again be any different? If you want Cyberpunk, go make your EVE character there. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/74 "2022-11-19T17:03:56Z")
indeed. It is fascinating CCPs resilience. With such amount of failed projects after huge investments
 all thanks to the EVE profits during the good times! And they still exist as a Company with employees and prob. even paying taxes! And they even allow me to dunk miners in highsec. They are the master troll company. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/75 "2022-11-19T18:04:42Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > They’ve started it already, but most of the population (97%) had it turned it off, either due to having old PCs, poor optimization, or just plain not liking it. How many versions of the Captain’s Quarters Mantra are we going to see in here. The CQ was CCP sticking a pre-alpha tech demo made with an untested new graphics engine to sell a character creator. And yes. It was a failure on all levels. Now all you numbnuts use that as your go to for why avatar gameplay will never happen. > [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Why would them trying again be any different? Because CCP was bought by a competent company skilled in avatar based gameplay. > [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > If you want Cyberpunk I want EVE. And I want it the way it was envisioned by the creators of the game. Not the way a bunch of entitled crybabies afraid of positive change demand. If you dinosaurs can’t handle the future of EVE, learn to code and make a nice wireframe gank simulator. Mr Epeen đŸ•¶ ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/76 "2022-11-19T18:05:37Z")
> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > dunk miners in highsec “Dunking” no longer exists. Globby ruined it for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/77 "2022-11-19T18:10:11Z")
It’s still CCP that makes EVE, Pearl Abyss only really handles money side of things. Pearl Abyss would have to create a whole team to properly create WiS. CQ gets mentioned because that is all WiS will be, just with more station environment. There will be just as little to do as before, except you can see other people’s avatar (except you can already do that with how things are). ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/78 "2022-11-19T18:31:37Z")
roblox makes billions selling clothes rly its a money printing machine ![Captura de Tela 2022-11-19 às 15.33.32](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/6/e/c6e8d543f8b97685373012cf948e8a6931f9bcbc.jpeg) not saying that EVE will compete with the kids behemoth but EVE will make a looooot of money with cyberpunk cute chicks btw people in FF don’t care if the waifu is a guy (i saw it on asmogold video ) ---
**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/79 "2022-11-19T18:57:32Z")
Eve was meant to be a living breathing Universe. not a PVP only game, CCP got manipulated by the "we want more spaceships brigade , And more PVP " and thats exactly why eve has stagnated. If they would have kept to there original plan eve would have millions of players by now. i understand people want to PVP but that takes a fundimetal basic foundation to enable this type of gameplay, which Eve no longer has due to ratty, And unfortunately the CSM is mainly made up of charismatic people, that are in PVP and very social alliances, while 60% of the player base who are silent just want a game where they can escape the problems of real life. If i am wrong, then why have all the major PVP alliance members not bother to play anymore. Now we are in a situation where nobody want to risk a expensive ship, or even bother to undock anymore. So the whole PVP is king idea is not what people want on the whole , we want a rounded out gameplay. Not just shooting ships. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/80 "2022-11-19T18:59:20Z")
look at this sexy people we don’t go around randomizing our avatars because deep down we care ![341475_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/9/b/49b61f365f58121ed140c2d0cc8971b1a74b6d38.jpeg) ![281126_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/c/4/cc46361272ee9c6b6aab3ebec8c40ca69bdb5231.jpeg) ![277557_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/2/b/b2b8f4c693d9d3fe7d1e23d20c8aabf327e20c8e.jpeg) ![244406_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/0/8/308ec5aef30e8c588d64ae605644c67f95db6e4a.jpeg) ![332182_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/1/d/11d44f442590bdc3b55a5d4d76ae1a850fbb3f2c.jpeg) ![253359_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/d/5/3d5815a39e8261b31bc67afac30f5c5702a43a98.jpeg) ![295213_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/7/6/e76505bf049d8a6881ac6a07788d99b2b005e297.jpeg) ![243450_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/3/b/c3b4c43d28fdcd9915169b3c0a42a8c6409eb669.jpeg) ![242759_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/5/195f7ffe60fee65528f747e56727385045590e80.jpeg) ![276122_2.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/c/7/bc7adff2665e1906933a7ef94d3fb880e7d1ac08.jpeg) > [@Talic](#): > > not a PVP only game eve is a PVP focused game , but there is people in final fantasy that simply don’t raid , same thing ---
**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/81 "2022-11-19T19:01:32Z")
Fake News. Eve was never meant to be a PVP only game, this is a narrative that is a lie. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/82 "2022-11-19T19:02:41Z")
> [@Talic](#): > > Fake News. Eve was never meant to be a PVP only game, this is a narrative that is a lie. i mined a rock i scanned a anomaly i did a level 4 now you go get some kill mails mkay [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076.md?page=5)