# CCP Cancels WIS and then Tease It... 👀 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076 "2022-11-18T20:25:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/83 "2022-11-19T19:17:03Z")
> [@Talic](#): > > 60% of the player base who are silent Agree with everything you said except that. It’s more like 90% are silent. CSM was created to give CCP a scapegoat. Other than that they’re useless. ---
**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/84 "2022-11-19T19:22:51Z")
I Also think that is way higher than 60% , but i had no actual figures as they dont speak , so I thought i would keep it a reasonable number. But CCP should take this in to consideration, We have a term the “Silent Majority” for a reason. I Mean the Captains Quarters was equal too , Buying a new ship , Activating so said ship, And not being unable to undock, How could it not be a Failure. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/85 "2022-11-19T19:32:59Z")
> [@Talic](#): > > “Silent Majority” most people use the term wrong the silent majority use to rule, hold the power even if “silent” Dr. Thomas Stockmann was “canceled “, transformed into a pariah , by the silent majority yes i know today the vocal minority can rule but its mostly used wrong anyway ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/86 "2022-11-19T20:23:03Z")
Where am I … ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/87 "2022-11-19T20:29:17Z")
[quote="Verlyn, post:86, topic:385076, full:true, username:Verlyn”] Where am I … [/quote] fixed , my apologies ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/88 "2022-11-19T21:53:10Z")
Please dont give them ideas to waste time on stuff like this 😕 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/89 "2022-11-19T21:59:52Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Please dont give them ideas to waste time on stuff like this 😕 i prefer them wasting time in this kind of thing than changing the game all the time and pulling new “plot lines” to water the game more and more long live the cat girls ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/90 "2022-11-19T23:37:26Z")
> [@Talic](#): > > not being unable to undock Did you keep trying to enter the station door? I tried it every day for a while and slowly stopped trying over time. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/91 "2022-11-19T23:48:47Z")
> [@Trinity\_Trifecta](#): > > wrong I believe the game would have been much much bigger had it had full avatars from launch I tried it in beta I believe and the lack of an avatar caused me not to consider the game again for about 10 years before I gave it another try and even then the lack of an avatar was a hurdle that I had to overcome The ship is the avatar LOL. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > back them wen i played wow i had a friend, she was a chick from Rio , she just like to play dress up with her char and chat in the city , i think there is market for this … Oh there is. But if peeps hate the micros now, wait till they introduce the room stuff 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > Capsuleers that want to duke it out in space can still do so, and we could even have perks to having those kinds of players in station, Im seeing Entertainers ala Star Wars Galaxies for ep … Entertainers served a purpose, to heal mind wounds. LOL so you want to bring buff bots back too? Hard no. At least it was fun hitting up the cantinas/hospitals to muder imps that had TEFs 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > Im really starting to wonder if you’re even mentally capable of considering or let alone imagine different points of view ? Oh I am. My guy, I’ve played every MMO since like 96 😃 I’m well aware people want houses and stuff. However, EVE has never been about that. You want that? NMS 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > It’s Done. Ah thank you for giving up and conceding 😃 I knew you had it in you 😃 > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > WiS would never be more than some side-content and won’t become part of the core gameplay of EVE without significantly changing the nature of this game. > > Instead I recommend -if you are looking for third person character gameplay- that you find another game to play, one that has third person view science fiction gameplay as their core gameplay as that which will most likely be much more in depth than any side addon to EVE’s spaceship gameplay could be. > > I like Warframe for my third person walking around in space stations (and spying) gameplay, so if you’re looking for something like that, maybe give that game a try! This. I keep saying they can just play NMS. > [@Zeta\_Prime](#): > > Again, do not try to speak for everyone, and do not try to define What is Entertainment for everyone. > Some people get satisfaction from sharp ship skins, some people want high quality visual, some people feel alive in captain’s quarters. > > If you are a product manager or game designer, I would tell you do not misunderstand your opinion as actual user requirement, or try to ‘educate’ your clients how to play a game My guy, it isn’t my fault its facts. WiS will literally add nothing. You want WiS? NMS. > [@Talic](#): > > I want it, and half my mates that left eve wanted that Human avatar experience, which was a lot easier to adjust to when coming from nearly any other MMO. LOL, it isn’t my fault you need a model of yourself to play a game. How sad LOL. > [@Verlyn](#): > > you’re wasting your time LOL I love the height of cowardice when people block you but still talk crap 😃 > [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I want EVE. And I want it the way it was envisioned by the creators of the game. Not the way a bunch of entitled crybabies afraid of positive change demand. If you dinosaurs can’t handle the future of EVE, learn to code and make a nice wireframe gank simulator. The irony of this statement LOL. > [@Talic](#): > > Eve was meant to be a living breathing Universe. not a PVP only game, CCP got manipulated by the "we want more spaceships brigade , And more PVP " and thats exactly why eve has stagnated Wait till you find out EVE’s creators were big UO fans 😃 > [@Talic](#): > > And unfortunately the CSM is mainly made up of charismatic people, that are in PVP and very social alliances, while 60% of the player base who are silent just want a game where they can escape the problems of real life. Uh where are you making this number up from? And if so, there are tons of other games they can play instead of EVE. I recommend Animal Crossing 😃 > [@Talic](#): > > If i am wrong, then why have all the major PVP alliance members not bother to play anymore. You got proof of that or > [@Talic](#): > > Fake News. Eve was never meant to be a PVP only game, this is a narrative that is a lie. It isn’t PvP only. Its a game where you consent to PvP as soon as you undock 😃 Stop lying bro 😃 > [@Talic](#): > > I Also think that is way higher than 60% , but i had no actual figures as they dont speak , so I thought i would keep it a reasonable number. Oh so you made it up and don’t have to be believed. Got it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/92 "2022-11-20T07:40:07Z")
Huh? You want CCP to sell you virtual handbags for your char for 2000 plex each? I prefer uprising changes and new ships rather. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/93 "2022-11-20T07:45:03Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Huh? You want CCP to sell you virtual handbags Dude, it’s a **Gucci Dionysus Handbag with Bee!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/94 "2022-11-20T07:54:18Z")
> [@Total\_Bedlam](#): > > it’s a **Gucci Dionydus Handbag with Bee!!!** Exactly and it fits well with a Dr. Who tie and a Borg cybernetic limb prosthetic not to mention the Bunny Ears omni-frequency hearing and signals processing implant. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/95 "2022-11-20T09:05:15Z")
@Gucci_Uzi will be happy about you guys buying his bag’s at least with his slogan “Fashion is true end game” ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/96 "2022-11-20T09:30:24Z")
Nobody wrote anything about buying, when people who own this stuff turn into the wrong alley in Jita 4-4 we just knock them out and take their belongings… the true EVE WiS gameplay experience. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/97 "2022-11-20T09:46:59Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > when people who own this stuff turn into the wrong alley in Jita 4-4 we just knock them out and take their belongings Now _that’s_ content! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/98 "2022-11-20T09:49:06Z")
> [@Total\_Bedlam](#): > > content Not entirely sure, probably most of the victims will be discontent with this non-consensual avatar PvP. 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/99 "2022-11-20T10:59:18Z")
what if you could find black market deals for ships ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/100 "2022-11-20T11:49:29Z")
Why would those deals be locked behind 3rd person view gameplay instead of posted in the regional market, the market chat of your alliance communication tool, or local chat? After all, those deals are (I assume) made by players, and those players will much more easily reach buyers through other channels that are instantly available (some even out of the game) rather than available behind a slow and resource-heavy simulation of your character walking through some station. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/101 "2022-11-20T12:10:05Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Huh? You want CCP to sell you virtual handbags for your char for 2000 plex each? > I prefer uprising changes and new ships rather. noooo not literally i want ccp to sell 2, 3 , to 5 bucks cosmetic ■■■■ for wis the gucci bad thing was just to show that there is money there I’m a dad , my kid wants robux , i give her like 100 reais ((20 dollars) twice a year must have spend 80 dollars in my life , she have a lot of ■■■■ , more than her cousins and stuff i find it fair i think , well , kids this days like that tablet stuff and its affordable for the fun she have i say to her buy stuff in the official shop , never in maps , they rob the children there even i buy some cosmetics here and there for my tanks 😛 not affordable ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cancels-wis-and-then-tease-it/385076/102 "2022-11-20T12:47:30Z")
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