# CCP changes to low-sec, null-sec, FW, Escape Bay - starting March 24'th **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** null-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [March 17, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277 "2020-03-17T15:53:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Vexier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adrian_vexier/32/352640_2.png) [@Adrian\_Vexier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adrian_Vexier)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/1 "2020-03-17T15:53:18Z")
Hello, fellow capsuleers! So CCP will be implementing some changes to low-sec and null-sec mechanics, starting March 24’th. The full description of the changes, as well as other new features, including the frigate escape bay, are included in the dev-blog, linked below. So any thoughts and opinions on this? > **[Loyalty to Lowsec - Coming 24 March! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q7ccgv/loyalty-to-lowsec-coming-24-march?origin=launcher&utm_medium=app&utm_source=launcher)** > > Faction Warfare, Frigate Escape Bay and Limited Time Events! **Adrian Vexier** - _“Stay safe and fly dangerous!”_ ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/2 "2020-03-17T17:31:50Z")
good 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/3 "2020-03-17T17:49:05Z")
Calm before the storm. [https://www.eveonline.com/article/q5jp49/moon-mineral-distribution](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q5jp49/moon-mineral-distribution) is also expected before the end of the month and we’re already past the halfway mark. Any bets on the 26th or do you expect them to defer it until April? ---
**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/4 "2020-03-17T17:55:58Z")
meh… ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/5 "2020-03-17T17:57:05Z")
Unspecified warp speed changes. Reversion of a change that no one wanted and bringing back gate sliding as if they’re saviors of lowsec. That’s it? ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/6 "2020-03-17T18:43:23Z")
Please read some more, there are several very good changes with this update regarding FW space. Also, it’s not “real” gate sliding like it was years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/7 "2020-03-17T18:44:11Z")
> [@Tater-nuts](#): > > there are several very good changes with this update regarding FW space. …such as? ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/8 "2020-03-17T18:49:19Z")
Continue reading, it’s really not that hard. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/9 "2020-03-17T19:05:33Z")
Tell me what **you** think are the “very good changes”. 🙂 Edit: after waiting and seeing no response, all I’ve gotta say, “thought so” ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/11 "2020-03-17T19:29:09Z")
Shut up Scoots. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Joia\_Crenca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joia_crenca/32/291897_2.png) [@Joia\_Crenca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joia_Crenca)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/12 "2020-03-17T19:55:10Z")
> [Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts) > > [1h](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/8) > > Continue reading, it’s really not that hard. 🙂 I don’t see any reason to be negative about this post? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/13 "2020-03-17T23:29:44Z")
Regarding lp payout for kills, they just needed to make it pay a decent amount irrespective of tier. Has anyone seen how the new sites will be named? Semi-large? Medium large? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/14 "2020-03-17T23:31:02Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Semi-large Huhuhuhuh ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/15 "2020-03-18T17:32:57Z")
Awww, your so cute! I don’t spend all my time reading and trolling the forums like some other people. I gave my answer in the official forum thread attached to this announcement on the launcher before I posted in this thread. I see no need to repeat myself. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/16 "2020-03-18T17:34:22Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/a/1ae2a35153658ebd36a114723e918689e694e03a.png) You still haven’t answered my question. What do YOU think is a “good” change? ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/17 "2020-03-18T17:53:15Z")
LP payout for kills has always been based off the value of the kill 1M cost = 100 lp atm ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/18 "2020-03-18T19:24:07Z")
Reduction of FW mission LP rewards and an increase in kill LP rewards. Finally! +1 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/19 "2020-03-18T19:40:14Z")
It will get abused with alts, if it’s anywhere near profitable to abuse, which I assume will likely be, as I dont see CCP giving out shitty rewards for a change they claim will “fix some love” into FW. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/20 "2020-03-18T19:57:47Z")
If it is profitable then alot of people will do it driving the supply of those items up, which can push the price down ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277/21 "2020-03-18T22:06:20Z")
And then we’re back to the same problem overpaying LP gains missions created … Do you guys think for a minute ? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-changes-to-low-sec-null-sec-fw-escape-bay-starting-march-24th/226277.md?page=2)