# CCP Cheating! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 10, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794 "2019-07-10T11:22:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/22 "2019-07-11T07:00:50Z")
IT’s a manipulation. The dreadnought is the proof that round-earth alien drug industries have a hold on CCP and are trying to brainwash us in a video game. Follow the mantra of holy raptor, give me all your ingame possessions, to save your immortal soul from slavery. Remember : trans-humanity NEVER walked on the 14th moon of Demeter. We found evidences the film was actually shot on the 5th moon instead (the shadows do not match and the flag goes twice too fast) ---
**Author:** ![Rinoa\_Kilgannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rinoa_kilgannon/32/217895_2.png) [@Rinoa\_Kilgannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rinoa_Kilgannon)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/23 "2019-07-11T07:03:14Z")
Again, it was a LORE EVENT. Part of a storyline that’s been going on for several months, if not longer. You people… jeez. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/24 "2019-07-11T07:03:55Z")
> [@Rinoa\_Kilgannon](#): > > You people… jeez. DON’T YOU DARE RUIN THE STORY TELLING !!! ---
**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/25 "2019-07-11T07:14:48Z")
> [@Rinoa\_Kilgannon](#): > > Again, it was a LORE EVENT. Part of a storyline that’s been going on for several months, if not longer. > > You people… jeez. Relax princesses, It was a joke! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/26 "2019-07-11T08:34:38Z")
CONCORD is not FacPo. CONCORD protects the Empires from Capsuleer damage, what the Empires do about their internal order is a sovereign matter. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/27 "2019-07-11T10:45:15Z")
I think we should be able to use Dreadnoughts in PVE in highsec. We need something exciting to spice up the game. ---
**Author:** ![Arc\_Hammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arc_hammer/32/138203_2.png) [@Arc\_Hammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arc_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/28 "2019-07-11T12:56:29Z")
Go use Dreadnoughts in C5/C6 wormholes, plenty of excitement there. Capitals were taken out of highsec a long time ago, no reason to bring them back (imho of course). ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/29 "2019-07-11T13:01:24Z")
You know those Blood Dreadnaughts were basically fit to shoot other capital ships or structures right? They couldn’t hit any of the sub caps (unless they sat still at range)? If you want to get mad at CCP get mad at the HUGE bias they have towards the Amarr RP block (like “here have some free capital kills”) rather than the spawning of dumb AI rats in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/30 "2019-07-11T14:44:28Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > We need something exciting to spice up the game. you already have. It’s called LS/NS/WS ---
**Author:** ![Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ghost_o_mo/32/376789_2.png) [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ghost_O_Mo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/31 "2019-07-12T00:34:27Z")
Mindlessly grinding in total safety… in a dread … is not exciting. Those things exist in low, null, wh space as a carrot to entice senior players out of highsec. Excitement is available in those areas, though the waves of nerfs over the last decade have largely eroded the fields of combat into a ginormous stripmine for competitive botting. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/32 "2019-07-12T00:45:08Z")
Meanwhile in Reykjavik… ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/1/c12607f50f2144962d77f7ef1d87155ba9087e1e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/33 "2019-07-12T18:02:17Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > I would like to know why players can not use Dreadnought in High Sec but the NPC can use them against players in High Sec? I would like to know why NPCs have infinite capacitor capacity but players have to deal with cap stability and running out of cap? I would like to know why sasha battleships in incursions can use capital-level energy neutralizes but players have to deal with appropriately sized neuts? NPCs have been cheating for years. This is nothing new. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/34 "2019-07-12T18:22:32Z")
I would like to know why NPCs in missions jump without even the need for a cyno, in a space you can’t even light a cyno ? I would like to know why NPCs can lock you and crit at 10 000 km ? and why some NPC targeting time is fixed ? and why they can keep shooting missiles for jours, without a need to refuel ? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/35 "2019-07-12T18:34:40Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I would like to know why NPCs can lock you and crit at 10 000 km ? and why some NPC targeting time is fixed ? and why they can keep shooting missiles for jours, without a need to refuel ? Yeah, NPCs are cheating!!! OP was right! Also, why are npcs able to modify modules, like estamel, but we can’t??? So unfair!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ghost_o_mo/32/376789_2.png) [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ghost_O_Mo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/36 "2019-07-12T21:25:53Z")
The treachery is thicker even than that. CCP looks the other way while the people crewing these NPC vessels play with omega quality gear without paying monthly subs. You could even argue they are sponsored by CCP! They receiver their ships free of charge, and they are able to bypass concord response times completely. Furthermore, it’s my understanding the NPCs aren’t even presented the EULA and thus cannot be held responsible to it. This is clearly treachery… ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/37 "2019-07-12T21:33:17Z")
> [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](#): > > The treachery is thicker even than that. CCP looks the other way while the people crewing these NPC vessels play with omega quality gear without paying monthly subs. You could even argue they are sponsored by CCP! I dont think so. All the drops are always garbage T1 meta crap, so it must be fitted by T1 meta crap, too, which can be used by Alphas. Also, only 1 person on the ship must be omega. The rest can be alpha. So its not as bad, when you consider they just need to crew one person to be an omega. ---
**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/38 "2019-07-12T23:10:50Z")
Hey, that’s not a bad idea. Paying NPCs to attack citadels. Well, it probably would be a bad idea in the end, but an interesting one anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/39 "2019-07-13T03:41:11Z")
> [@Khergit\_Deserters](#): > > Paying NPCs to attack citadels. PH is already like NPCs. ---
**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/40 "2019-07-13T07:26:39Z")
While we’re on the topic, I want to equip a raitaru with 36.5 Cruise Missile Launcher II’s and fly it through stargates. All the way to Jita. And then turn on my upwell MWD to kamikaze jita 4-4. Wait, what were we talking about? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-cheating/173794/41 "2019-10-11T07:40:51Z")
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