# CCP. Eve Online has your love, but does New Eden? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** roleplay, faction-war, redesign\ **Created:** [June 7, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954 "2025-06-07T12:15:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/41 "2025-06-09T15:47:46Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Go play Star Citizen. Find out how poorly they’re doing. Actually Zaera does play Star citizen. Not only is Zaera a High Admiral, - but she and her cutthroat band of pirates rule the skies with her **Polaris** , Zaera is the most feared ship captain ever. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/0/4/60464621e71a1ddb14df6069d75013d16ef4f30e.jpeg) Zaera rewards bad behaviour with access to her pleasure palace ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/d/6/3d6a17e5d6fa511ae147bfa5d258210f5e185e1d.jpeg) Within the polaris hanger is the Scorpius Antares to catch Zaera’s prey so she can play with it before it’s inevitable destruction. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/c/ffcb4f935b34b065dc1aebae02b58a8b202d2fc0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/42 "2025-06-09T16:18:40Z")
You sunk money into that trash? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/43 "2025-06-09T16:32:15Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Zaera rewards bad behaviour with access to her pleasure palace Stop it please. You’re going to make me want to download it. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/44 "2025-06-09T16:40:06Z")
> [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](#): > > > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > > > Zaera rewards bad behaviour with access to her pleasure palace > > Stop it please. You’re going to make me want to download it. Be careful what you wish for… > [@Returning Player Suprise](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-suprise/473431/23): > > They are currently being held inside the dungeon of Princess Aiko,S pleasure Palace A place that had once kicked Frosty out because he enjoyed the torture. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/45 "2025-06-09T16:54:31Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Be careful what you wish for… I usually am, but then again I’m no Frostpacker. I’ll be content to serve drinks or towels in a pretty evening gown, light up a few sticks of incense and disappear in the kitchens 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/46 "2025-06-09T17:00:09Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > You sunk money into that trash? The PvP is great , you should try it. If you buy a mining permit, you get access to my pleasure palace with a swimming pool, bar, sauna, VIP suite with a television , double bed and Zaera running around naked if you lucky before she headshots you ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/47 "2025-06-09T17:02:07Z")
I’m not sure Glen is especially lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/48 "2025-06-09T17:04:17Z")
Let me know when that game reaches full release in another twenty years. It’s a complete buggy mess. I’ve no desire to play it.. Falling through floors- dying in elevators… No thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/49 "2025-06-09T17:05:18Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’m not sure Glen is especially lucky. I’m not lucky. I’m prepared. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/50 "2025-06-09T17:05:37Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > another twenty years According to latest news I’ve seen on YT they are running out of money quick (not even sure how that is possible… I mean I know of course 😏) so if they can’t pull off a release very soon there might not be another 20 years. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/51 "2025-06-09T17:07:22Z")
This review was released one month ago. He is genuinely positive about the game, but acknowledges that it’s still a really huge buggy and confusing mess. The very same complaints that were a problem 10 years ago. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/0/1/6013fb95434c2a2e871ff0bb46065aef99c7c6a3.jpeg "Star Citizen - The Most Confusing Game") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K117BG99B0M) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/52 "2025-06-09T17:08:27Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Let me know when that game reaches full release Doesn’t matter if they release it or not, we got lots of shiny toys to play with, miners and haulers to pop and bears to terrorise. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/6/d/c6d167ef66906a403d16604c8f8d0c7bcfbd79e5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/53 "2025-06-09T17:22:22Z")
Found a written article (as that is easier to cite than a video): > **[$800 million, 13 years, and still no release date — the state of Star Citizen...](https://www.space.com/entertainment/space-games/800-million-13-years-and-still-no-release-date-the-state-of-star-citizen-in-2025)** > > As Star Citizen approaches a billion dollars in funding and with no full release date in sight, we take a look at its history and the current state of this ambitious space epic. > There have also been a number of troubling reports about the state of the game’s development and the health of its developer, Cloud Imperium Games. An [Insider Gaming report](https://insider-gaming.com/star-citizens-development/) from October of last year revealed a studio in crisis: pushing its staff to crunch, laying off more than 100 of its employees, and freezing wage increases. [Financial data from 2022](https://cloudimperiumgames.com/blog/corporate/cloud-imperium-financials-for-2022) showed that the company had burned through more than $637 million over the course of development, at a rate averaging $106 million a year between 2020 and 2022. Of course the whole article and further research into the subject is advised, the above is just a summary of parts of what I’ve seen in news videos. So as I wrote the issues is finance related and some of their recent actions regarding monetization methods and others (including delaying launch) seem to be in support of that assessment. Of course as I wrote do your own research, just wanted to clarify what I was referring to. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/54 "2025-06-09T18:40:19Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’m not lucky. I’m prepared. Are you now? ![200](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/7/347a2c0a697065425b3f9b164986efb1d0c4c885.webp) Zaera’s pleasure dome even has a clone bay ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/4/b/d4bb5532500e9f58eb7db7006f4694197d453d3b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/55 "2025-06-09T19:22:29Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/3/2/232bd101d1475b59e246417534f10cefc2c436b3.jpeg "Cobra Kai Season 4 - No Be There Scene") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBXy1dwukII) ---
**Author:** ![Tanzubbora\_Adran\_Quzx\_pon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tanzubbora_adran_quzx_pon/32/414339_2.png) [@Tanzubbora\_Adran\_Quzx\_pon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tanzubbora_Adran_Quzx_pon)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/57 "2025-06-10T11:04:04Z")
Are you serious? ---
**Author:** ![Tanzubbora\_Adran\_Quzx\_pon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tanzubbora_adran_quzx_pon/32/414339_2.png) [@Tanzubbora\_Adran\_Quzx\_pon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tanzubbora_Adran_Quzx_pon)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/58 "2025-06-10T11:07:23Z")
I feel you, but I disagree. I think gate camps and gankers add so much to the game. I like that the universe is actively hostile, and that I have to watch my back. ---
**Author:** ![Tanzubbora\_Adran\_Quzx\_pon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tanzubbora_adran_quzx_pon/32/414339_2.png) [@Tanzubbora\_Adran\_Quzx\_pon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tanzubbora_Adran_Quzx_pon)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/59 "2025-06-10T11:14:11Z")
I’m ignoring all the comments about star citizen. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/60 "2025-06-10T11:18:05Z")
> [@Tanzubbora\_Adran\_Quzx\_pon](#): > > I feel you, but I disagree. I think gate camps and gankers add so much to the game. I like that the universe is actively hostile, and that I have to watch my back. When I say removed - I mean in its current form. I’m not opposed to an overhaul. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/61 "2025-06-10T13:37:33Z")
Gatecamps are fine, as they have counterplay. I love busting up gatecamps! HS ganking has no counterplay. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954.md?page=4)