# CCP. Eve Online has your love, but does New Eden? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** roleplay, faction-war, redesign\ **Created:** [June 7, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954 "2025-06-07T12:15:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/83 "2025-06-18T16:29:29Z")
Are you reading tarot cards? I wonder how World of Tanks survives without PvE? Where do the free tanks come from? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/84 "2025-06-18T16:29:52Z")
Nope. Just the drivel you keep writing. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/85 "2025-06-18T16:30:32Z")
If my writing is drivel, and yours isn’t, how come I routinely get more ‘likes’ than you do? Why isn’t your writing more popular and influential? Perhaps, you are the driveler? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/86 "2025-06-18T16:32:04Z")
Okay. So prove it. If no PvE or NPC ships or anomalies or wormholes or any other form of PvE exists, where are the free advanced ships going to come from once everything has been destroyed and lost. Tell me what will keep people subbed and giving millions of dollars to CCP. Prove me wrong and I’ll admit defeat. Concord is also gone. No NPCs or agents. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/87 "2025-06-18T16:33:26Z")
Bro, I just logged in, and I already got 7 free ships, because CCP says they are “impressed” with my progress. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/3/d/d3df8372bd650a8dcf7c2d8a7fe68dc970ef5617.jpeg) No PvE required. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/88 "2025-06-18T16:33:43Z")
No agents or concord or npcs. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/89 "2025-06-18T16:33:57Z")
I’m fine with that. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/90 "2025-06-18T16:34:16Z")
That wasn’t my question ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/91 "2025-06-18T16:34:39Z")
Questions require question marks. How are you always wrong on everything you say? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/92 "2025-06-18T16:35:10Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > What will keep people subbed and giving millions of dollars to CCP? What will keep people subbed and giving millions of dollars to CCP? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/93 "2025-06-18T16:35:38Z")
Me. People sub for me. They want Aiko content. Even my ‘enemies’ can’t get enough of me. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/94 "2025-06-18T17:25:14Z")
Nah. The idea of a discussion is that you respond to _what a person has actually said_…not to some straw man version…or using a related post to platform your ideology whilst never actually responding to the points raised in the post you springboard off. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/95 "2025-06-18T17:33:50Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > What will keep people subbed and giving millions of dollars to CCP? A better question. What is the #1 reason people leave ? I think ( and CCP stats from prior years even show ) that ganking and PvP are waaaaay down the list. I would argue that the complexity of the game, and simply being bored, are at the top of the list. The question then arises. If one scraps PvP in highsec…is one going to make highsec more, or less, boring ? You know that some miners, for example, never ever leave highsec. I cannot begin to imagine the level of sheer boredom from mining in total utter safety…and for what ? More ISK ? More ISK for what ? Even the stupidest person is going to get to the ’ what the heck am I doing this for ?’ situation…_so having some risk involved at least provides some motivation_. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/96 "2025-06-18T17:34:35Z")
No risk = No game ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/97 "2025-06-18T17:47:17Z")
Well, since ganking only affects a very tiny percentage of the player base, it makes sense that ganking would not be at the top of the list for quitting the game. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/98 "2025-06-18T17:53:30Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > What will keep people subbed and giving millions of dollars to CCP? But can you answer your own question. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/99 "2025-06-18T18:08:59Z")
I am Gallente but I’m a dirty traitor and now I’m with Caldari. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/100 "2025-06-18T18:15:43Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > But can you answer your own question. Are you asking me or telling me? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/102 "2025-06-19T17:31:57Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > What will keep people subbed and giving millions of dollars to CCP? Watching your head explode from all the mutually contradictory views you have is definitely worth paying Omega for. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/103 "2025-06-19T17:43:12Z")
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