# CCP. Eve Online has your love, but does New Eden?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** roleplay, faction-war, redesign\
**Created:** [June 7, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954 "2025-06-07T12:15:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/104 "2025-06-19T22:28:07Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> You are a very bitter player

Now now @Glenduil, be nice

![rabbit-food](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/f/f/1ff1be22078806b29863af691cefdcf70ab1eea9.gif)

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/105 "2025-06-19T23:22:48Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Now now @Glenduil, be nice

It’s OK…I’m used to meaningless hyperbole on the forums.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/106 "2025-06-20T03:49:47Z")

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I will when Gloria gets it through his head that knowing how to tank is not a bad thing. I stopped caring about his bruised ego.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/107 "2025-06-20T04:59:44Z")

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Do you know how to antitank?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/108 "2025-06-20T06:17:35Z")

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Properly fit your ships: if your ship accommodates an acrive shield tank, do it right. Learn thermodynamics. If your ship has speed, throw on a cloak and get its speed up as high as it can go (a Deluge can go over 11AU/s and over 3,000 m/s sublight and can warp while cloaked).

Know your ships and use their abilities to your advantage. A Hulk can fit inside an Orca which lets an alt warp out in a pod while the Orca stands up to the gankers.

If the mining party wants to employ a skilled pilot with a Logistics Cruiser, then all the cruiser has to do is be ready to armor and shield heal any ship that gets moved in on. No ganking party is going to stick around a belt with a Logi.

The only thing you have to do is survive until Concord. It’s not that difficult.

But, if you’re all alone in a ship with no tank, no defense, and no backup Logi, the next best thing for antiganking is to have enough ISK in your wallet to replace your ship. That’s all there is to it.

Edit: another method is to find an out of the way hole in the galaxy and mine there. That works the best.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/109 "2025-06-20T08:20:14Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> while the Orca stands up to the gankers

So is an Orca like ganker proof?

 ![sexy vamt](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/e/d/4ed57f2904f7ed1d6855f96388fdfe85edc09138.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/110 "2025-06-20T09:41:18Z")

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If you properly tank it, it’s over 25 times more gank proof than the Hulk hiding inside its ship maintenance bay.

Properly fit your ships.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/111 "2025-06-20T09:51:50Z")

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So like he was doing it wrong?

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/6/e/b6ed0cc2726b9535d9682a3ca1d221dc1dee82c7.jpeg)

 ![spider](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/5/d/55d9a179420656f2fe4c64ddc12dfb6d86211b82.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/112 "2025-06-20T10:03:53Z")

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What was his fit? You didn’t link the fit. Was his EHP 300,000? 400,000? Some Orca fits just aren’t worth it. It’s called protecting your investment. Think I’m going to buy a 2.5 billion ISK mining command ship and not protect it? I have over 700,000 EHP on that thing. Shield tanking is easy. More people should learn how to do it. It saves lives.

[Orca, Goliath]  
Reinforced Bulkheads II  
Damage Control II

Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener  
EM Shield Hardener II  
Large Shield Extender II  
Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener  
Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener

Mining Foreman Burst II  
Mining Foreman Burst II  
Large Industrial Core II  
Shield Command Burst II  
Large Moon Ore Compressor I  
Salvager I

Large Core Defense Field Extender II  
Large Transverse Bulkhead II  
Large Transverse Bulkhead II

‘Dunk’ Salvage Drone x2  
Hornet II x5  
Mining Drone II x5  
Vespa II x5

Shield Extension Charge x300  
Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x5814  
Mining Laser Optimization Charge x2061  
Mobile Tractor Unit x1

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/113 "2025-06-20T10:35:53Z")

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Bring it on down, would look nice on my killboard

 ![bunny](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/a/7/7a726337f542748ffe0be721359a0d9d494e4f6b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/114 "2025-06-20T10:43:11Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/6/ff6b4633e91233e26b3494f8bcb868d6191e210e.jpeg "Hit Me With Your Best Shot (Remastered)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRD80XRMT7s)

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/b/5/eb52a81cd1de2701e4612f00c9210d3385d1c500.jpeg "The Dark Knight-JOker"Hit me!"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9IQmhfGEhU)

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/116 "2025-06-20T11:19:41Z")

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Whatever, Gloria. You’ve lied many times on these forums.

And I don’t care how many ships you have because I have all the ships I want from this game. If that changes, I’ll buy the next ship that catches my eye. “I have more ships than you do!” Are you 5? “I have trillions of ISK and all of the Titans and everything else in the game. I just reprocessed 18 Keepstars because I felt I had too many.” Good for you. I don’t care. Stop acting like a child.

And I’m obviously living rent free in your head. Your activity has you bitching about the fact that I have tanked out freighters in threads I haven’t even read, let alone posted in 😆 . It keeps you up at night to know that someone is better at this game than you are. You have all of this experience yet you know nothing about tanking.

> [@Expanding Criminal Activities in High-Sec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/187):
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> I transported my entire stock of modules and other goodies to Jita…billions worth…a few weeks back, right through Uedama. Fun times !

Who hasn’t moved product with that kind of value through Uedama? But then, whether I’m in my 11AU/s cloaked Blockade Runner with a sublight speed of over 3,000m/s or a fully tanked out Freighter, no one’s going to have an easy time catching me. Could it happen? Sure, but it’s going to take a lot more than a few Catalysts.

This is how you anti-gank. This is Eve Online. This is how you survive. Anyone who listens to you deserves to lose their ships.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/118 "2025-06-20T11:29:46Z")

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Flagged for trolling. That’s all you ever do anymore. Your activity is pretty easy to read.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/120 "2025-06-20T11:36:00Z")

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Anyone who reads your history will see otherwise. You lie too much. Reported.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/121 "2025-06-20T11:37:20Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Reported.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Flagged for trolling.

🤔

 ![fantasy-knight-armor-banner-wallpaper-preview](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/1/de1f69ec5bd14f176f6e8eb85bacb9fff6fc53a7.jpeg)

🤭

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/122 "2025-06-20T12:06:36Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> You lie too much.

You mean lies like saying I’d said knowing how to tank was a bad thing…when I never said any such thing. THAT kind of lie ?

So let me get this straight. You’re ‘reporting’ me for stating that your lie was exactly what it was…a lie.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/123 "2025-06-20T12:32:53Z")

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you called it a “gambler’s fallacy”. Yes, that means exactly what I said it means. Your statement was in response to me simply using T2 mods to protect my freighters. T2 mods are cheaper than faction, blues, and purples, but still a bad idea to use according to you.

> [@Expanding Criminal Activities in High-Sec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/187):
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> You end up falling into a sort of gambler’s fallacy of let’s just spend a little more, and a little more, and you will hit the jackpot. Me ? I’ll happily mine in a Venture for the heck of it, or transport small but expensive stuff in a Sunesis or in my quite nifty 300K EHP Brutix. I transported my entire stock of modules and other goodies to Jita…billions worth…a few weeks back, right through Uedama. Fun times !

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/124 "2025-06-20T12:47:44Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> but still a bad idea to use according to you.

Er…no…there you go again. Nothing in what you ‘quote’ me saying says _anything_ about T2 mods being a bad idea.

See…this is why I keep saying respond to what I have _actually said_. It surely can’t be that hard !

Ya know, on the forums it doesn’t really help if you are primed and itching with some response that you are going to post anyway regardless…as that’s how you end up straw manning what people say and just using it as a springboard without genuinely responding.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/125 "2025-06-20T13:04:19Z")

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Whatever you say, dude. You’re the only person in Eve I’ve ever met who thought T2 mods were too much to spend money on.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/126 "2025-06-20T13:06:16Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Flagged for

Flagged for flagging

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