# CCP. Eve Online has your love, but does New Eden?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** roleplay, faction-war, redesign\
**Created:** [June 7, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954 "2025-06-07T12:15:03Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-eve-online-has-your-love-but-does-new-eden/488954/167 "2025-07-29T11:13:28Z")

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> I didn’t start playing Eve Online so that I can feel like an Eve Online player. I started playing Eve Online because (well, spaceships but) I wanted to feel like a Sci-fi tribesman

To come back to forums for the first time after a long while, and come across this thread and this sentiment, feels so relatable. It’s basically [what I said](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/556) when I was on the verge of retiring after having played for 10 years between 2007-2017. There was a shift somewhere around 2013 when CCP clearly decided maintaining an immersive universe led by storytelling and player-to-player relations was going to take a backseat to monetisation, PVE content and solo-related gameplay. And that decision has stripped the game of a lot of what used to make it unique and saw entire books - that now give me so much nostalgia when I look at them [on my shelf](https://i.imgur.com/BL8G0mD.png) - come out about its universe and player/corp/alliance-made lore.

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