# CCP, Fix the Heimatar Market **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 5, 2018, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484 "2018-08-05T07:46:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/21 "2018-08-05T12:55:00Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > NO it did never despawn after completion, only on DT (and not every DT I think) > The CAN inside respawns, as well as the rats, so you can jump in, open the cans, or go to next system. I sent in a support ticket to CCP about it 3 months ago after searching the whole constellation for almost 6 hrs, had bookmarked 5 different sites and warped to each of them multiple times but they all remained dead. CCP said the site was bugged and normally it will respawn somewhere else after being completed since there’s a limited amount of those sites spawning randomly within the constellation. Due to the bug the GM said the only way to complete the site was to log in right after downtime and be the first one there before anybody else completes it. I don’t know if the situation is still the same or not since this was 3 months ago. I recently revisited those bookmarks I had made which just went to empty space, also there were no sites listed in the Overview within those systems. By the way, the Olfei Medallion can be sold on Regional Markets… ---
**Author:** ![Rocklor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocklor/32/89382_2.png) [@Rocklor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocklor)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/22 "2018-08-06T21:37:42Z")
Heimatar Market down again…😒 ---
**Author:** ![Cefeg\_G](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cefeg_g/32/89121_2.png) [@Cefeg\_G](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cefeg_G)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/23 "2018-08-06T21:39:03Z")
I have written a new bug report and support ticket … ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/24 "2018-08-06T21:42:37Z")
> [@Rocklor](#): > > Heimatar Market down again…😒 All duct tape has sold out. 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Cefeg\_G](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cefeg_g/32/89121_2.png) [@Cefeg\_G](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cefeg_G)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/25 "2018-08-06T21:59:45Z")
@CCP_Explorer This is the thread where we need answers from CCP. See also [Ongoing login issues!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ongoing-login-issues/95401/241?u=cefeg_g) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/26 "2018-08-07T06:08:24Z")
Yeah, these issues definitely don’t help encourage players to stay with the game. ---
**Author:** ![Colinde\_s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/colinde_s/32/419040_2.png) [@Colinde\_s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Colinde_s)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/27 "2018-08-07T12:40:28Z")
**@CCP_Falcon Please get someone to respond in this thread. A whole region needs/needed public trade, and we would like to know why it whent down.** * * * To those Amarr people, this is all your fault anyways. Amarr Emperor is mad at our successful liberation campaign, and has sent saboteurs to weaken the Republics trade. It will not work. We freed ourselves from your slavery without public markets, and we can survive without. The rebellion was made possible through secret trade and infrastructure. We are the masters of clandestine operation. You can never kill the Matari spirit. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/28 "2018-08-07T13:15:46Z")
We are aware of this issue and are working on a permanent fix. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/29 "2018-08-07T14:27:46Z")
For me the Heimatar market is working… well technically. I wouldn’t really call it a functioning market in the past couple of years, but that’s another story 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/30 "2018-08-07T16:51:02Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > NO it did never despawn after completion, only on DT (and not every DT I think) > The CAN inside respawns, as well as the rats, so you can jump in, open the cans, or go to next system. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > I don’t know if the situation is still the same or not since this was 3 months ago. I recently revisited those bookmarks I had made which just went to empty space, also there were no sites listed in the Overview within those systems. > > By the way, the Olfei Medallion can be sold on Regional Markets… Today I was able to login just before DT and a couple minutes after DT to check it. Here’s the current status of this stuff. Prior DT the Demonstration site is without rats and the cans, if aren’t looted, are empty. After DT everything is the same. ![A-Demonstration](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/2/522a9f198d18b01f7435ce3032bfe8d9846e8b5a.jpg) The completed or broken Demonstration sites didn’t despawn not after completion, not after DT. The Sveipar is a well populated Constellation, where L4 missions are performed frequently. So, as soon you’ll accept the first Epic Arc mission, a new respective site will appear somewhere up there. Until you’ll bring your Cruiser or a slower BS there and until you’ll jump between systems and from one broken site to another, the newly one will be completed by locals. 🙂 As I was able to see, the site can be finished by 2-3 sniper Stabbers. It’s ok. As the Agent states, those anomalies should be a kind of competition for everyone. _ **The chain issues here are next. A style of the broken sites motivates us to buy that Olfei Medallion from the market. If the Heimatar market is broken also, it makes difficulties to access the Epic Arc content, especially if Hek is empty on Medallions.** _ Moreover, to participate in the Epic Arc content you have to agree to be scammed, because the Medallion’s price is 50M ISK currently - it’s more ISK that can be grinded from Chapter 1. This tends us to open a “Negative ISK Epic Arcs” topic. If your are lucky, you can buy that thing for 20M ISK, which is more or less ok. BTW, AC Loki is better for Wildfire due to range and damage type on: Hail, Faction Fusion and Barrage Ammo. A HAC Loki is good for Blitzing those missions. It’s a content where Marauders can be useful for full clearing. Overall, nice content. It will be better to increase the BS bounties by 500k ISK and loot quality for unmotivated Blitzing. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/31 "2018-08-07T16:59:53Z")
OK, so the sites are broken with no rats and empty cans, definitely should file a bug report on it. So the site you visited just before Downtime was in the same location after Downtime? ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/32 "2018-08-07T17:08:44Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > So the site you visited just before Downtime was in the same location after Downtime? Yes. Looks like, if somebody starts a new Epic Arc, then a new working site appears up there until it will be finished. After this, the site remains in space for unknown amount of time as a broken one, without rats. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/33 "2018-08-07T21:52:07Z")
Wait, didn’t you say the site was broken and empty both before and after Downtime? Anyway, I also thought the sites only spawned when the epic arc was started but that’s contrary to what the GM said. He said there’s a limited amount of sites that are suppose to randomly spawn as Anomalies within that specific constellation which are not dependent on anybody starting the Epic Arc. They’re sorta like the Cosmos Complexes where you have to go to retrieve specific items. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/34 "2018-08-08T01:50:41Z")
> [@Colinde\_s](#): > > To those Amarr people, this is all your fault anyways. Amarr Emperor is mad at our successful liberation campaign, and has sent saboteurs to weaken the Republics trade. It will not work. > > We freed ourselves from your slavery without public markets, and we can survive without. The rebellion was made possible through secret trade and infrastructure. We are the masters of clandestine operation. You can never kill the Matari spirit. Hear, hear! inb4 the Amarrians hack/rig the next round of Federation or Republic elections… ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/35 "2018-08-08T11:44:51Z")
> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#): > > inb4 the Amarrians hack/rig the next round of Federation or Republic elections… They have given me their word that no such thing occured. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/36 "2018-08-08T17:38:58Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Wait, didn’t you say the site was broken and empty both before and after Downtime? Yes. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > He said there’s a limited amount of sites that are suppose to randomly spawn as Anomalies within that specific constellation which are not dependent on anybody starting the Epic Arc. They’re sorta like the Cosmos Complexes where you have to go to retrieve specific items. No idea. I got that mission in Frarn and found two broken and one just completed site in Sveipar after that. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/37 "2018-08-10T15:58:52Z")
Good news! The August patch contains a fix for ‘A Demonstration’ relic site. > **[Patch Notes For August 2018 Release | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pd8zye/patch-notes-for-august-2018-release)** > > Patch notes for the August 2018 Release and all subsequent point releases. – Gameplay chapter ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/38 "2018-08-10T16:30:57Z")
Nice, thanks for finding that, so according to the Patch Notes for Aug 14. > Updated the triggers in the “A Demonstration” relic site to fix the spawning of the site. Hopefully that means the site will respawn again when completed. ---
**Author:** ![Victoria\_RavenSeer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/victoria_ravenseer/32/251157_2.png) [@Victoria\_RavenSeer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Victoria_RavenSeer)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/39 "2018-08-10T21:44:59Z")
The entire market system in Cobalt Edge has been offline/non-visible for at least 2 months now. They have been/had been made aware of the issue, but no communication has been had regarding the issue. It’s getting incredibly difficult to do any open marketing. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484/40 "2018-08-12T00:45:00Z")
I just did a few quick runs through the Sveipar Constellation which has 7 systems looking for ‘A Demonstration’ sites. This is what I found: Pator = empty site Eystur = empty site -w- Concord present Lustrevik = empty site Emolgranlan = empty site -w- Concord present Ammold = no site Hadaugago = no site Isendeldik = no site Will check it again tomorrow to see if the site locations have changed. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-fix-the-heimatar-market/95484.md?page=3)