# CCP ganking high sec players using Lancers withought warnings **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 16, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416 "2021-09-16T16:59:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Veng\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veng_yaken/32/381373_2.png) [@Veng\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veng_Yaken)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/1 "2021-09-16T16:59:20Z")
Just a warning, they have changed the game mechanics. You don’t get warning like low sec, they just jump you out of know where on belts scramble and smash you up in High sec. Your standings can be neutral and you don’t get any warnings like this orca they smashed up they must be short on money going that low on players it’s a kind of theft. They even kill the drones and salvage the wrecks. Wonder how many players they losing lol. Safer in Null sec at least you can see local and have warnings. Pretty low to stoop to that level you must need more money for servers. Been playing since 2004 not one compliant regarding losing a ship but this man is a big rofl., 2021.09.14 22:46:21 Victim: Veng Yaken Corp: Star-Unity Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Orca System: Afivad Security: 0.5 Damage Taken: 111045 Involved parties: Name: Cassandra Tyrannos Security: 0.0 Corp: Vigilant Tyrannos Alliance: None Faction: Drifters Ship: Drifter Cruiser Weapon: Lux Xiphos Damage Done: 82496 Name: Autothysian Lancer / Unknown Damage Done: 28472 Name: Sansha’s Savage / True Power (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 77 Destroyed items: Core Scanner Probe I, Qty: 50 (Cargo) Inertial Stabilizers II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Magnetic Field Stabilizer II, Qty: 90 (Cargo) Shield Recharger I Damage Control I Active Shielding Charge, Qty: 10665 (Cargo) Large Drone Mining Augmentor I Large Shield Extender II Mining Drone II, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay) Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge, Qty: 130 Drone Navigation Computer I Large Drone Mining Augmentor I Large Drone Mining Augmentor I Nanofiber Internal Structure II (Cargo) Mining Foreman Burst II Expanded Cargohold II (Cargo) Mining Laser Optimization Charge, Qty: 20566 (Cargo) Mining Laser Optimization Charge, Qty: 129 Shield Command Burst I Scordite, Qty: 86334 (Other) Multispectrum Shield Hardener I Salvager I Dropped items: Core Probe Launcher I Multispectrum Shield Hardener I Condensed Scordite, Qty: 113229 (Other) Mining Drone II (Drone Bay) Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge, Qty: 20577 (Cargo) Ice Harvesting Drone II (Drone Bay) Shield Harmonizing Charge, Qty: 4900 (Cargo) Reinforced Bulkheads II Small Tractor Beam II Concentrated Veldspar, Qty: 501058 (Other) Active Shielding Charge, Qty: 130 Expanded Cargohold II (Cargo) Solid Pyroxeres, Qty: 8922 (Other) Core Scanner Probe I, Qty: 8 Veldspar, Qty: 193901 (Other) Mining Foreman Burst II ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/2 "2021-09-16T17:28:51Z")
Normally its the Lancers that scram you. You just have to kill them and warp off. Of course, that assumes you are paying attention to the game and have drones to deploy. When one or both of those are not present, you’ll die and all responsibility sits with you. ---
**Author:** ![Veng\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veng_yaken/32/381373_2.png) [@Veng\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veng_Yaken)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/3 "2021-09-16T17:36:37Z")
I targeted the biggest one my mistake. But people that have been away or new players aint going to like this new mechanics. You dont get warnings they just warp on the field scram and hit. Its theft!. You get warnings about low sec and faction standings. Honestly now its wrecking the game and yes i was not afk. I thought cheaky \*\*\*\* wont be getting omega on my 6 accounts. Im all for suicide ganks and war and null but this is below the belt. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/4 "2021-09-16T17:52:37Z")
lancers are like elephants , they never forget , they are vengeful, if you F with them they will retaliate latter you will end with a big trunk up your a#$ …like wen they ruined my African safari those Fˆ%$%, it hurts a lot ☹ 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Pehatpsegk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pehatpsegk/32/288619_2.png) [@Pehatpsegk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pehatpsegk)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/6 "2021-09-16T18:24:23Z")
> [@Veng\_Yaken](#): > > …strangle them with money lost… Hmm…I suspect they don’t care and there’s more to PA’s plans for EvE than we the players know… Players like us aren’t their midium-term target market, at least. I’m planning on riding EvE down to see how it goes. Sure I can’t have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Jenny\_Hong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenny_hong/32/411360_2.png) [@Jenny\_Hong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenny_Hong)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/7 "2021-09-16T18:36:59Z")
“I targeted the biggest one my mistake.” You did it to yourself. This is EVE, Veng, not some rainbow unicorn safespace game. We risk getting buttraped every time we undock. Welcome to EVE. If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay up on the porch. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/8 "2021-09-16T19:46:57Z")
> [@Veng\_Yaken](#): > > Its theft! It’s NPCs doing what NPCs do. They’re not controlled by CCP. Why do you think you’re so special enough that CCP employees would go out of their way to specifically target you? ---
**Author:** ![Lano\_Oko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lano_oko/32/417537_2.png) [@Lano\_Oko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lano_Oko)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/9 "2021-09-16T19:56:54Z")
How can someone who’s been playing for _ **seventeen years** _ still wine about their spaceship being blown up? How is that even possible? Is this actually the year 2008 and I am just hallucinating that it’s 2021? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/10 "2021-09-16T22:42:30Z")
It is 2021. All anybody does now is whine. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/11 "2021-09-16T22:49:13Z")
Methinks either you attacked the reds on the gate because you assumed they were just like EZ 0.5 belt rats or you sat there long enough for them to target you. In either case, I have no sympathy. New Eden giveth, and New Eden taketh away. OOF! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/12 "2021-09-16T22:54:15Z")
If you haven’t shot them in the past they will not shoot you unless you warp to their observatory structures or maybe also if someone else aggroed them and the tyrannos warped in (not sure if that one attacks everyone or just those who have shot it now or in the past) but the lancers are harmless even if they scan you. At least that is how they are with me, never shot them and sometimes just chill out on gate or in belt with them and usually they scan me too and do no harm to me just do their thing and warp out after a while. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/13 "2021-09-16T23:50:46Z")
Play EVE, get your ships destroyed. It’s pretty simple. EVE is a ship-destroying game. Fly what you can afford to lose, meaning you have to have a few iterations of the same ship or don’t undock. CCP targeting players and blowing up their ships? How cool, I can play with the devs! 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/15 "2021-09-17T00:26:04Z")
The 80’s were better. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/16 "2021-09-17T00:29:02Z")
Nice conspiracy theory you got there. You do know that they have worked like this going back at least 6 years right? Anyway, here’s my thoughts. @Scipio_Artelius @tutucox_Khamsi Yes, OP died because of his lack of knowledge. However, it also seems like bad game design to make non-hostile (and particularly dangerous) entities show up as red to players. I mean, it so goes against what a reasonable player would expect, that it almost seems like it’s an intentional trap. Extra Credits has a video on affordances where they discuss it in more detail. But in my mind, this is the video game equivalent of using a horizontal bar on a side of the door that is meant to be pulled. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/0/190e93fa7f4907d23837820d57cb979b11cb8434.jpeg "Affordances - How Design Teaches Us Without Words - Extra Credits") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCSXEKHL6fc) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/c/f2c35ed446a41e259f3b75119c23e7079e9e15a9.jpeg) ![No P2W](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/e/c9e5bbcb978427c1d2c78ed0bf7e727425ef954f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/17 "2021-09-17T00:31:34Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > The 80’s were better [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/5/4/5547a8c5f3c2eb4de9f1fa54b0821dbf277b5d77.jpeg "Wreck it Ralph | Rick Astley - side-by-side comparison") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50qKHsRCr9Y) Good luck getting that song outtayo head now 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Pehatpsegk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pehatpsegk/32/288619_2.png) [@Pehatpsegk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pehatpsegk)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/18 "2021-09-17T01:53:51Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > Nice conspiracy theory you got there ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/2/b288966735657fb3e75ef0f0ff06cee609e6de99.gif) > [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > You do know that they have worked like this going back at least 6 years right? Yes. Can’t say I find that reassuring much. ---
**Author:** ![Rogue\_Integer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rogue_integer/32/312170_2.png) [@Rogue\_Integer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rogue_Integer)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/19 "2021-09-17T02:03:59Z")
> [@Veng\_Yaken](#): > > Pretty low to stoop to that level you must need more money for servers. Been playing since 2004 not one compliant regarding losing a ship but this man is a big rofl., I’m really trying to understand your implication that this encounter equates to more revenue for CCP. Are you suggesting that somehow they’re going to turn the salvage into real-life computers? ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/20 "2021-09-17T02:15:35Z")
> [@Rogue\_Integer](#): > > Are you suggesting that somehow they’re going to turn the salvage into real-life computers? Not if they don’t have the BPO they won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/21 "2021-09-17T04:38:00Z")
The lancers were always non-hostile unless you picked a fight or had a corpse in your cargo. Quite surprised that a 2004 player doesn’t know that. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416/22 "2021-09-17T07:16:46Z")
> [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](#): > > The lancers were always non-hostile unless had a corpse in your cargo. Always hostile. Got it. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-ganking-high-sec-players-using-lancers-withought-warnings/328416.md?page=2)