# CCP hates miners = confirmed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941 "2020-02-11T15:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/293 "2020-02-13T12:59:30Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > take a deep breath I think you should apply your own advise to yourself, you look a little bit too much triggered my friend. > [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > sit down idiot , you’re just a piece of sh.t ! you and the other f,cked in the head “capsuleer” who thinks is fun to target people that don’t even wanna fight back and have a stable income before even considering getting into pvp. I started the game ~60 days ago, and I only started getting into PvP one week ago. Let’s be kind, and say I was able to play during 50 days without ever loosing a single ship. What you want is already perfectly possible, and if you happen to be targeted once or twice, it is just part of the game and it will never actually stop you from having a stable income. Stop crying and raging for nothing, you are absolutely pathetic right now. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/294 "2020-02-13T13:00:07Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > Another one that has perception problems but let me give you a feedback of what i’ve learned this month : PVE and mining. Want me to elaborate PVE ? Collecting resources may well be PvE, getting away with it is PvP. I’m a miner and industrialist, I don’t shoot people in the face, I stab them in the wallet, which is PvP. But do feel free to educate me on the differences between PvE and PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/295 "2020-02-13T13:01:53Z")
> [@Carn\_Dallocort](#): > > I’m perfectly calm mate, your hysterics and temper tantrums that people like things other than shooting easy targets is actually providing my lunchtime entertainment Why do you even care what I shoot. I don’t try to win the ebushido award or something. I just dunk miners because it is hilarious. Clam down man ---
**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tazmanian_devill/32/410537_2.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tazmanian_Devill)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/296 "2020-02-13T13:04:48Z")
Aahahaha dude wtf are you talking about ? i mine in 2 ships and trying to do lvl 2 or 3 combat sites to train myself , that is PVE , understand ? ok let’s be kind , i’m sorry for calling you names, first off i lost an orca (made ticket on 5th) because the ddos problem , i made my ticket on 1st feb wich was another problem loosing 100 mil isk because uhm “rollback” ? So yeah today i lost almost a bil isk for what? it is frustrating and i like the game aswell but i don’t wanna give hours a day for what? for someone elses “fun” ? how do you call that normal for people that don’t want to pvp YET? ---
**Author:** ![Carn\_Dallocort](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carn_dallocort/32/413074_2.png) [@Carn\_Dallocort](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carn_Dallocort)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/297 "2020-02-13T13:05:09Z")
As I said, I am calm, and I have no qualms with what you shoot at all, neither did I ever say it was an issue I personally feel strongly about, calm down mate 😉 What I did find amusing is the fact you think what you do is somehow more important to the game than what anyone else does, such as bashing on miners because they like to mine. I’m just trying to remind you, no one and no role is more or less important. You do you, go on thinking you’re better than the people that mine so I can laugh at you some more 😂 Calm down mate 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/298 "2020-02-13T13:06:15Z")
For a game you pretend to know so much about and (while claiming to be new, doesn’t sound like that makes sense) which per your words isn’t pvp focussed, you sure do lose a bunch of clown fit ships to other players. Everything you say proves you DON’T know what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/299 "2020-02-13T13:07:19Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > Aahahaha dude wtf are you talking about ? i mine in 2 ships and trying to do lvl 2 or 3 combat sites to train myself , that is PVE , understand ? ok let’s be kind , i’m sorry for calling you names, first off i lost an orca (made ticket on 5th) because the ddos problem , i made my ticket on 1st feb wich was another problem loosing 100 mil isk because uhm “rollback” ? So yeah today i lost almost a bil isk for what? it is frustrating and i like the game aswell but i don’t wanna give hours a day for what? for someone elses “fun” ? how do you call that normal for people that don’t want to pvp YET? You were telling me that you wanted to “have a stable incomes” before getting involved in PvP. Yet, you are already flying ships that cost several hundreds millions ISK. So you already have stable incomes. You can engage in PvP with ships that cost less than 10 millions, so if you can afford to pilot an Orca you are way past that point already. So really what are you complaining about? As for what you lost because of the DDoS, well that’s definitelly annoying but that is not the gankers fault… ---
**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tazmanian_devill/32/410537_2.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tazmanian_Devill)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/300 "2020-02-13T13:07:26Z")
If i have to educate you what pve means then you must prolly have perception issues as i said :). PvP means player versus player wich in multiple cases it’s unwanted 🙂 like those gankers who think is fun to destroy someone who spent days and days on mining for an income. Yeah that’s fun you say lol. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/301 "2020-02-13T13:08:05Z")
> [@Carn\_Dallocort](#): > > What I did find amusing is the fact you think what you do is somehow more important to the game than what anyone else does, such as bashing on miners because they like to mine. How is that amusing. It is a simple fact. > [@Carn\_Dallocort](#): > > I’m just trying to remind you, no one and no role is more or less important. I disagree > [@Carn\_Dallocort](#): > > You do you, go on thinking you’re better than the people that mine so I can laugh at you some more I don’t hate miners or look down on them. I just pity them a lot and hope they come to their senses when I release them from their ships and self inflicted boring grind loop. I help them, which makes me a better person. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/302 "2020-02-13T13:08:11Z")
> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#): > > You were telling me that you wanted to “have a stable incomes” before getting involved in PvP. The “stable income” excuse is just that, an excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/303 "2020-02-13T13:11:16Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > i mine in 2 ships Do you sell the resulting rewards via the market? Because that my friend is PvP. In a PvE game there’s no players attacking other players, no players taking down your base, no players competing for resources and no players looting other players. A PvP game contains all or most of the things listed as not being in a PvE game; in Eve all of these things exist and are omnipresent, ergo it is not a PvE game but a PvP game with PvE elements. > [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > If i have to educate you what pve means then you must prolly have perception issues as i said :). PvP means player versus player wich in multiple cases it’s unwanted 🙂 like those gankers who think is fun to destroy someone who spent days and days on mining for an income. Yeah that’s fun you say lol. Somehow I don’t think that you’re capable of educating anybody, let alone me; because you have the self same perception issues that you’re projecting unto others. ---
**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tazmanian_devill/32/410537_2.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tazmanian_Devill)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/304 "2020-02-13T13:12:20Z")
You understand that i mine alot per day yes? i was able to pay for my account omega. Yet now i have only 3 more days to get 700 mil isk to get omega and i won’t be able to do it because of gankers , so why should i bother and try to do that because i don’t have 4-5 accounts to do it since my pc prolly can’t handle it and where is the beauty of the game if i do just that ? All i want is to have a stable income to get my SKILLS done to be able to fight and engage on people that want a fight or are a threat. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/305 "2020-02-13T13:12:53Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > PvP means player versus player A good example of PvP was when my alts dunked your retriever in Anzalaisio. Should have purchased a mining permit. ---
**Author:** ![Carn\_Dallocort](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carn_dallocort/32/413074_2.png) [@Carn\_Dallocort](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carn_Dallocort)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/306 "2020-02-13T13:13:18Z")
Wow the egotism 😂 keep it coming mate, could write a thesis on that psychological condition of yours. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/307 "2020-02-13T13:13:50Z")
CCP doesnt hate miners, they havnt changed anything about mining in WHs. ---
**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tazmanian_devill/32/410537_2.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tazmanian_Devill)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/308 "2020-02-13T13:14:22Z")
Like i said , you can stop breathing , you’re a pice of SH.T . Peace! ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/309 "2020-02-13T13:16:45Z")
Are you always that mad if you lose at a round of PvP in a game? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/310 "2020-02-13T13:17:11Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > Like i said , you can stop breathing , you’re a pice of SH.T . Peace! You are aware that Eve is a PG13 game, if you are indeed older than 13 I suggest that you try acting your age and not your shoe size in imperial measurements. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/311 "2020-02-13T13:17:41Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > You understand that i mine alot per day yes? i was able to pay for my account omega. Yet now i have only 3 more days to get 700 mil isk to get omega and i won’t be able to do it Just buy Omega with real money buddy. It’s how it is supposed to work, the option to buy it with ingame money obviously require tons of efforts, otherwise CCP would never make money again you know. You are currently traping yourself on an infinite cycle, where you farm money to pay your Omega, and you will only use your new Omega time to farm again for the next one… Honnestly, break this weel and pay with your real money, you are only torturing yourself. > [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > All i want is to have a stable income to get my SKILLS done to be able to fight and engage on people that want a fight or are a threat. The ship that my corp ask me to bring in PvP most of the time only require 21 hours of training to be piloted with level 3 skills, and ~a week to have everything at level 4. Having your skills done is extremely quick to have the possibily to start engaging in PvP, what skills are you waiting for? You don’t have to (and actually should avoid to) pilot a big ship when starting in PvP, nor do you need every skill at level 5. ---
**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tazmanian_devill/32/410537_2.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tazmanian_Devill)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/312 "2020-02-13T13:18:07Z")
No, i’m upset because i lost 1.5b because 1 : ddos , and 2 : gankers idiots like you. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941.md?page=16)