# CCP hates miners = confirmed

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941 "2020-02-11T15:04:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/375 "2020-02-13T18:18:29Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> Do you even know where that is without using google?

It’s that place what has Kangeroos init?

😛

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/376 "2020-02-13T18:19:12Z")

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Flaming Kangaroos right now…lol

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**Author:** ![Kace\_Robins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kace_robins/32/484596_2.png) [@Kace\_Robins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kace_Robins)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/377 "2020-02-13T18:19:49Z")

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■■■■ you much? Just a little…

💖

Have the last say. I’ve made my peace.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/378 "2020-02-13T18:22:47Z")

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Kangaroo should be slow cooked, flash roasting it ruins the meat.

It’s pretty good when done right, and healthy to boot.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/379 "2020-02-13T18:23:42Z")

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> [@Kace\_Robins](#):
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> Have the last say. I’ve made my peace.

Hey, funny, that’s usually what I offer to people like yourself,  
but clearly you’re not _as_ stupid as the rest of them.

Still, you don’t manage to ask even the simple question about the reasoning behind my post …  
… and I will keep nagging you about it …  
… until you finally realize the mistake you’ve made.

Mostly also because you’re proving me right …  
… without having even the slightest clue how, or why.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/380 "2020-02-13T18:34:41Z")

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Sol at least recognized not all of us from the US are entitled wimps.

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**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/381 "2020-02-13T18:45:08Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> The ice miners in high sec are most definitely bots. No one can control 2 freighters, an Orca, and 30 Skiffs all at once, moving in unison inches apart from each other.

I do it everyday, its not that hard, mostly muscle memory.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/382 "2020-02-13T18:51:30Z")

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You can’t do it without some form of input broadcasting. Not to mention, no single computer can run 30+ instances of this game unless you remove the GUI like a bot program does.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/383 "2020-02-13T19:03:09Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> no single computer can run 30+ instances of this game

Are AMD CPUs a joke to you? One doesn’t even need a single core for a single client. Can pin two clients onto one core, I believe three works just as well. Sound needs to be turned off, because python’s pseudo multithreading is ■■■■■■■■. I’m pretty sure even three clients would work on a single core, which puts 30 clients on an eight core CPU\*\* well within the realm of possibility.

And those are pretty cheap already.

\*\*_(not counting SMT, because ■■■■ that)_

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/384 "2020-02-13T19:05:16Z")

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Again, the question is, how does one person control 30 accounts at the same time, moving them all at once without input broadcasting?

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/386 "2020-02-13T19:06:55Z")

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That would be Kusion. And that’s 12 not 30. All he had to do was fleet up 12 gank ships and press F1. That is within the realm of possibility.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/387 "2020-02-13T19:07:59Z")

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“Regroup” _(i think that’s what it’s called? I forgot)_ in the fleet window moves every ship in the fleet towards the FC. Warping off is, of course, self explanatory and then there’s people like The Australian Excellence™ who can teach us peasants _(relatively speaking, of course)_ how it’s done.

Note: I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m saying that I can see someone being dedicated enough to make it happen, with the game providing at least _some_ support for that. “Regroup” really helps a lot and hardware nowadays is definitely up to the task.

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**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/389 "2020-02-13T19:19:23Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> You can’t do it without some form of input broadcasting.

Come on over and see, again, not that hard. Yes it is very hectic sometimes and bathroom breaks only happen during a fleet movement.  
As for PC specs: 3700x mild OC, 32g ram, 980ti. No sound.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_nirvana/32/173437_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Nirvana)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/390 "2020-02-13T19:25:42Z")

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There is a program called Eve-O Preview that makes this so simple. A single computer can certainly run 30 clients, Eve in potato mode with no sound is not a very resource intensive thing to run.

Plus with mining, you are only having to load each client once every minute or two (less with ice mining). Just because it doesn’t seem possible to you certainly doesn’t make it impossible.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/391 "2020-02-13T19:40:33Z")

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I don’t understand the appeal of playing that way. At that point, you’ve turned EVE into a job instead of enjoying a game.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_nirvana/32/173437_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Nirvana)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/392 "2020-02-13T19:46:08Z")

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Unless of course you enjoy playing the game that way 😉

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/393 "2020-02-13T19:51:21Z")

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> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#):
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> Like i said , you can stop breathing , you’re a pice of SH.T .

Waah waah waah I hope you lose every ship you ever fly, free corvettes included, and every tiniest piece of veldspar you ever grind up in your second job.

…and you call other people “idiot”, “stupid”, etc etc but you don’t know the very - very - basic game mechanics reason everyone in Jita isn’t shooting each other? You fly Orca but claim you’re waiting to have an income so you can pvp? (which one can do literally from day one, but I’m sure you know all about that and everything else).

You are the one who should sit down.

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> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#):
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> i simply regret playing this game

> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#):
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> this was my last day in it

You’re leaving the game @Tazmanian_Devill ? Good. EvE needs newer players who are not like you.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/395 "2020-02-13T20:14:07Z")

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> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#):
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> this was my last day in it

God, I hope this is true. Please let this be true.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_nirvana/32/173437_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Nirvana)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/396 "2020-02-13T20:15:03Z")

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Now I’m going to have to go back and read this entire thread just to see what happened…

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/397 "2020-02-13T20:15:44Z")

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Nothing really. Just your usual “miner gets triggered because of nerfs that won’t impact him personally and then miner threatens to quit the game” drama.

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