# CCP hates miners = confirmed

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941 "2020-02-11T15:04:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/398 "2020-02-13T20:18:06Z")

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TL;DR Just another day on the forums.

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/399 "2020-02-14T02:19:11Z")

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Well I mean the east coast was locked out for a bit. Was the game any better then?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/400 "2020-02-14T06:43:40Z")

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I must assume so, but I haven’t logged in due to a lack of interesting things or someone to play with.

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**Author:** ![PiPPeN\_Doos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pippen_doos/32/183957_2.png) [@PiPPeN\_Doos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PiPPeN_Doos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/401 "2020-02-14T11:14:34Z")

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**Please help me give feedback to CCP**

Hi there everyone

I am a marketing researcher by trade and am concerned about the changes CCP have made to ore and changes they want to make with moon mining/minerals.

I want to give them some objective player feedback - and this is the best way I know how - through research. It would mean alot if you can participate in my survey. Please can you help send to all your friends that play the game?

> **[Eve Online player feedback on latest ore and moon mining changes](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfKTeJRNbAJ-IU3JhLKaCtrsZnBmo3Zrd_sGE7C-qTlzLJ7Lw/viewform?usp=send_form)**
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> Hi there
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> My name is PiPPeN. I am a marketing researcher by trade and am concerned about the changes CCP have made to ore and changes they want to make with moon mining. 
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> I want to give them some objective player feedback - and this is the best way...

Thank you

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_nirvana/32/173437_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Nirvana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Nirvana)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/402 "2020-02-14T12:18:24Z")

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“Do you support the decisions CCP are making with regards to ore and moon mining, in the way they are making it?”

They have not detailed how/what exactly they are changing. They released a Dev Blog that specifically says “we are keeping the details close to our chest right now”. All of the people complaining about these changes are making guesses about the details that don’t yet exist.

You poll is collecting information based on a lack of information…this is not going to produce any accurate research until _AFTER_ they release _REAL_ information ;).

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**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/403 "2020-02-14T12:25:30Z")

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Stop spamming this pointless, self-stroking nonsense on the threads.

STOP. Nobody cares what you think.

Nobody.

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**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/404 "2020-02-14T12:37:24Z")

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Did u all miss the part where they say this is just one step in the rolling out of dynamic resource system? Do you not read the notes in full? This is NOT PERMANENT.

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**Author:** ![Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdullah-sekir-bashka/32/182573_2.png) [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/405 "2020-02-14T12:39:43Z")

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> [@Optimus\_Maximus](#):
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> This is NOT PERMANENT.

that ist very much maximus optimuis(m) 😆

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**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/406 "2020-02-14T12:41:24Z")

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They wrote

"(…)  
The plan consists of three phases:

- Shortage phase
- Re-distribution phase
- Dynamic distribution phase

The shortage phase is a mandatory step in order to get the data that is needed, so that what constitutes a ‘healthy’ distribution for the current player base can be identified and understood. This step will also allow all the factors that should be considered during the creation of the dynamic system to be listed. Currently, there are three to five steps within this phase. The first step was executed last December, and the second step is going live with this patch. The next step will be going live sometime next month.

(…)"

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**Author:** ![Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdullah-sekir-bashka/32/182573_2.png) [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/407 "2020-02-14T12:51:09Z")

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yep. i know.

I have no problems with it either.  
Anyway, it won’t be 100% like it was. Therefore the change is temporary, but the final result is unknown.

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/408 "2020-02-14T22:06:59Z")

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Pretty sure had you read my post - I already said that.

Why is it the trolls on these forums are so illiterate they simply repeat the obvious.

Sadly it seems CCP is hurting for subs, I just recieved an offer to resub that any other time would have been attractive but now just seems a joke.

## Get 15% off 1 Month Omega

### Plus More for Additional Accounts until 19 Feb

In addition, if you upgrade your account to Omega today, you can save 25% when you upgrade any additional accounts you have to Omega tomorrow!

This has to be a joke, why would i resub multiple accounts when the game play they were trained for (1 rorq + subcap miners/manufacturing) has been all but removed? Are those in marketing at CCP really so niave as to think I would waste money on Omega to just sit in a station/citadel?

I support a lot of charities - CCP/Pearl Abyss will never be one of them.,.

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**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/409 "2020-02-14T22:14:27Z")

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You know that’s an automated send-out right? It isn’t for “you” it just goes out. Automatically.

> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> I support a lot of charities - CCP/Pearl Abyss will never be one of them.,.

No doubt because they are “businesses” and not “charities”.

But sure, take offence, unsub and ragequit. While you do, please do not forget to spell my name right when you contract me your stuff. Thanks & gl \o

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/410 "2020-02-14T22:21:45Z")

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Read my previous post moron - Trolls will be trolls.

And you are wrong, only one of my 15 unsubbed accounts got the email, if it was “automatic” all of them would have recieved it. It is sent to accounts that have been unsubbed for X amount of time to try and entice people to donate money to them… Fuk some people are dumb.

There is no reason to resub my accounts at any price, the game is fundamentally broken and CCP is still trying to find the cheapest way to “fix” their mistakes instead of putting in real development time.  
Pearl Abyss needs to replace those at CCP who caused this with people who want to see the game survive - Or they could put it on the market and save themselves a lot of money fighting a losing battle.,.

CCP’s logic with this cheap resub offer is so flawed - Resub to train more SP, on characters that have no use in game.

NB, haven’t logged in for months now and have no intention of doing so unless it is to trash all my chars…

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**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/411 "2020-02-14T22:35:27Z")

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> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> It is sent to accounts that have been unsubbed for X amount of time to try and e

Yes. Automatically. Are you simple or just salty?

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/412 "2020-02-14T22:37:32Z")

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> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> And you are wrong, only one of my 15 unsubbed accounts got the email,

Or you know, CCP actually know they are all your accounts so only sent you one Email to not spam you with 15, and then have you rage about 15 emails instead.  
But you are determined to find insult here.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darth_schweinebacke/32/497371_2.png) [@Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darth_Schweinebacke)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/413 "2020-02-14T22:41:09Z")

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When I used to do Ice mining with 7 accounts I just had everything set to approach the Orca, then you just need to move the orca and everything else follows (of course that only works as long as nobody forcefully changes the direction and speed of the orca)

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**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/415 "2020-02-15T01:01:04Z")

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For a “marketing researcher” you don’t seem very intelligent.

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**Author:** ![Antic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antic/32/297532_2.png) [@Antic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antic)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/416 "2020-02-15T01:26:33Z")

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> …And you are wrong, only one of my 15 unsubbed accounts got the email, if it was “automatic” all of them would have recieved it. It is sent to accounts that have been unsubbed for X amount of time to try and entice people to donate money to them… Fuk some people are dumb…

Actually, i got 3 out of 3 accounts subbed with omega atm. I still got that email.

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**Author:** ![So\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/so_san/32/453414_2.png) [@So\_San](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/So_San)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/417 "2020-02-15T07:29:12Z")

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Piracy never gets nerfed, come to the dark side.

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>
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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/418 "2020-02-15T10:51:01Z")

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15 accounts over 4 different emails 1 gets targetted by idiotic propaganda - you now saying CCP breaks the law by accessing my computers?

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