# CCP hates miners = confirmed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941 "2020-02-11T15:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/419 "2020-02-15T11:02:35Z")
interesting I have 15 of 15 unsubbed and only got one, so maybe CCP marketing is as bad as it seems and they send offers designed to encourage inactive players back to those who pay subs anyway Either way I won’t be taking up the attempt to get me to part with money for a game my game play has diminished so much it isn’t worth logging in for. CCP need to find a way to fix the damage they did with BO and cyno nerfs. Prime time of the year for Eve and PCU is still at summer levels and again with the most recent changes individual and small group players are hardest hit - CCP keep showing time and again they just don’t know how to fix their mistakes. I for one will not give them anymore of my money or time simply to watch them further destroy what was once a good game. I wonder had Pearl Abyss waited 12 months to spend the money on CCP they did - Would they have still gone through with the purchase - IMO, CCP would be history now if not for Pearl Abyss. Poor management, mis-management at the level CCP heads have shown in recent years would have seen them sacked in any other industry ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/420 "2020-02-15T12:24:38Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > you now saying CCP breaks the law by accessing my computers? You’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/421 "2020-02-15T12:51:49Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > you now saying CCP breaks the law by accessing my computers? Yeah, CCP breaks the law by logging your IP… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/422 "2020-02-15T12:58:04Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > CCP breaks the law What law? You agreed to their terms so… ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/423 "2020-02-15T13:30:25Z")
I don’t know what law, actually. But a person stated that accessing one’s computer breaks “the law”, even if it is not necessary to identify alt accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/424 "2020-02-15T13:34:03Z")
You guys do realize if all his acounts are on the same e-mail address hell only get one mail. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/425 "2020-02-15T14:11:58Z")
> [@Tazmanian\_Devill](#): > > this was my last day in it Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Torquas\_Thurd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/torquas_thurd/32/299999_2.png) [@Torquas\_Thurd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Torquas_Thurd)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/426 "2020-02-15T16:15:44Z")
I mine ore and ice and snort gas in WHs in cheap, paper thin Ventures that can run in 3-4 seconds. I love escaping the folks running around in billion isk T3 fits. I do just fine isk-wise. The downside is that I can’t make isk while watching Netflix or surfing the web. I need to pay attention. That’s called computer gaming. I also do some HS mining…frankly, it’s boring. Bring on the gankers, catch me if you can. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/427 "2020-02-15T16:22:34Z")
That means that while you’re a miner you’re not a carebear. Effectively you’re a PVPer, as EVE players should be. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/428 "2020-02-15T17:20:15Z")
> [@Theron\_Larkis](#): > > That means that while you’re a miner you’re not a carebear. QFT 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/429 "2020-02-15T18:13:36Z")
> [@PiPPeN\_Doos](#): > > My point is ccp hates miners. If they don’t then show me the nerfs to pvp… ![Kanye 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/a/3a60225032368ae858a694ebec3e9b2e91d191fa.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/430 "2020-02-17T11:11:54Z")
Miners are trash. Go get your free isk in another game. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/431 "2020-02-17T11:27:09Z")
standup mining a xenotime moonbelt with excavators. ---
**Author:** ![Tradulix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tradulix/32/275143_2.png) [@Tradulix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tradulix)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/432 "2020-02-17T11:39:51Z")
Still grinding or playing already? ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/433 "2020-02-17T11:48:16Z")
You have no idea how the game economy works. And “minerals that I mine are free” is not a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/434 "2020-02-17T12:19:50Z")
> [@Optimus\_Maximus](#): > > And “minerals that I mine are free” is not a thing. In a world where they are generated infinitelly, it is. Mining is literally creating value out of nowhere. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/435 "2020-02-17T12:26:16Z")
sooo… what’s your time worth? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/436 "2020-02-17T12:35:41Z")
It’s called opportunity cost… ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/437 "2020-02-17T13:47:24Z")
> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > sooo… what’s your time worth? > [@QuakeGod](#): > > It’s called opportunity cost… That’s all nice in theory. Now when it comes to the practice, very few sane people actually do mining by being fully focused on the game. They do this while watching Netflix, while working on something they have to do in real life, while cooking, while pooping, or while actively playing the game but with an other character that require them to actually do something, meanwhile their mining alt.. Mine. Basically they are “doing” this during situations where they wouldn’t by logged in the game otherwise. The “opportunity cost” is nothing. The whole idea of mining is generating money out of nowhere while not even playing the game. Which is fine, 'he, that’s the concept of farming in most games. But be honnest about what it is, at least. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/438 "2020-02-17T15:00:46Z")
> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#): > > very few sane people actually do mining by being fully focused on the game. > > They do this while watching Netflix, while working on something they have to do in real life, while cooking, while pooping, or while actively playing the game but with an other charac AFK HS fool confirmed. Try cooking a meal when mining in somewhere you have never been. Like NS for example. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941.md?page=20) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941.md?page=22)