# CCP hates miners = confirmed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941 "2020-02-11T15:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/695 "2020-08-01T07:22:17Z")
Depending on local animal welfare standards, this is often not far from the truth. Sidenote, I’ve worked in an abattoir, cows are the most dangerous large animal in the UK and farms are like the Final Destination movies, so many interesting and disgusting ways to die. ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/696 "2020-08-01T19:38:15Z")
Has this elevator hit the basement yet? ---
**Author:** ![Immaminestuff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/immaminestuff/32/216221_2.png) [@Immaminestuff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Immaminestuff)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/697 "2020-08-01T20:36:07Z")
> [@PiPPeN\_Doos](#): > > What’s the point to mine now? It is too risky for the mid / big stuff and the small stuff cant make you enough money to plex. This is your problem. Honestly just find the 15-20$ a month to pay for your account, the game is grindy enough without having 1.3B sucked out of your wallet every month. Do the $$$ math on mining for ISK, why anyone would grind for what basically amounts to about A quarter $ US an hour is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/698 "2020-08-01T23:54:59Z")
> [@Immaminestuff](#): > > why anyone would grind for what basically amounts to about A quarter $ US an hour is beyond me. I sub but engage in various activities just so I don’t have to Plex to buy ships I need my self sufficiency. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/699 "2020-08-02T09:12:22Z")
There’s a difference between doing stuff to pay for ships and grinding 25 cents an hour to pay to play. ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/700 "2020-08-02T09:19:29Z")
And I care, why? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/701 "2020-08-02T09:24:27Z")
Because all humans should strive for self-improvement, and by not caring about someone rejecting your misguided at best and fallacious at worst claim, you are failing your species. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/702 "2020-08-02T09:41:23Z")
> [@Serene\_Repose](#): > > And I care, why? You do? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/703 "2020-08-02T13:48:32Z")
Before the moon nerfs: [HiSec Moon Mining Created Content for Me](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-moon-mining-created-content-for-me/181720/75) There were even active Athanors in LowSec, probably the least mined area of space. This was a huge source for content in HiSec. People fought over moons. After the moon nerfs? Nothing. It’s dead. Barely any Athanors in my old stomping grounds (over a dozen 0.5 systems). CCP killed content and the justification seems to be “people were making ISK”. Well duh why does anyone PvE? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/704 "2020-08-02T13:55:02Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Sometimes you have to step back and let it go and find something else And for many of us this involves another game entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/705 "2020-08-02T15:45:53Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > CCP killed content and the justification seems to be “people were making ISK”. Noooo! You can’t just make ISK through low activity and a highly cooperative and friendly environment!! Haha mining laser go bzzzzzt ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/706 "2020-08-02T19:57:58Z")
> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#): > > Noooo! You can’t just make ISK through low activity and a highly cooperative and friendly environment!! Well I mean, AFK Orcas were a bit of a problem in HiSec (not for me, I’d just bump them away and if I timed it right, could steal some Augmented mining drones $$$$) that probably called for some iteration, and perhaps the yields of HiSec moons could have been scaled back, but to outright remove entire ores from the spawn table? Seems a bit excessive. I’ve endured many changes to EVE Online, including Crime Watch and the introduction of PvE instances. No change has single handedly killed HiSec content as much as this one. 0.5 systems were full of activity and people fighting over “mining rights” to moons, the conflicts regularly spilled out into LowSec. Now I log in after many months away and my old stomping grounds are just dead again. This is sad. Opportunities for conflict, diplomacy, and spiteful revenge - gone. I’m just glad my friend told me about the change before I resubbed all my mining/bumping accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/707 "2020-08-02T20:34:23Z")
I’m here currently docked due to the nasty invasion leaking outside. I have many minions all fully code complaint with licences who are itching to undock with me to destroy yet another n ice field. Might be today, might be tomorrow, what a wonderful time I have in New Eden to have friends @ [tutucox Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi) ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/708 "2020-08-02T21:07:06Z")
> [@xavier69](#): > > CCP master Pearl abyss has demanded they destroy the economy in eve so Pearl abyss can cash in with a P2W shop. Pearl abyss didn’t pay 425,000,000 usd for eve online not to rape it and turn it into the P2W hell BDO is…I stopped logging this game over 3 months ago. I wont even play EVE for free its so bad now… They have pretty must destroyed any real viable income stream. They gut my T2 profits to the point its not worth it i quit months ago. This man is brilliant. He figured it all out. What a genius among us! @Black_Pedro Besides xavier here posting … remember him? … … I’d like to point you at [google](https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&hs=9Gj&ei=myonX85rxMqBBqLAibgH&q=%22serene+repose%22+eve+online&oq=%22serene+repose%22+eve+online&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAE6BAgAEEc6BggAEBYQHjoECAAQHjoHCCEQChCgAVCxKVjmOWDpOmgAcAF4AIABgAKIAbQOkgEGMi4xMC4xmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiOpe-Otv3qAhVEZcAKHSJgAncQ4dUDCAs&uact=5) when it comes to Serene Repose. Over 1700 search results. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/709 "2020-08-02T21:09:29Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Because all humans should strive for self-improvement, and by not caring about someone rejecting your misguided at best and fallacious at worst claim, you are failing _our_ species. Minor correction … and interesting. Why would you subconsciously exclude yourself from our species? Are you a dog? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/710 "2020-08-02T21:13:02Z")
I am an observer. ---
**Author:** ![Kira\_Hhallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kira_hhallas/32/401600_2.png) [@Kira\_Hhallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kira_Hhallas)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/711 "2020-08-03T12:32:06Z")
… if mankind would blow them from the planet… for the Universe, it will make no differnce… we are all dust in the sky … and we have no impect in the Galaxie,… so who care’s … ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/712 "2020-08-03T12:50:54Z")
How do you know? ---
**Author:** ![Kali\_Kaline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kali_kaline/32/220186_2.png) [@Kali\_Kaline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kali_Kaline)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/713 "2020-08-03T20:08:18Z")
Solstice Projekt You ? … motherfuker are you still around? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/714 "2020-08-04T16:04:36Z")
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