# CCP hates miners = confirmed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941 "2020-02-11T15:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Morgando\_LeFrick\_Anzomi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgando_lefrick_anzomi/32/168950_2.png) [@Morgando\_LeFrick\_Anzomi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgando_LeFrick_Anzomi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/164 "2020-02-12T07:31:28Z")
Have you seen Kusion in Uedama, he runs like 30 ships ganking. ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/165 "2020-02-12T07:33:17Z")
i am of my own alliance already in nullsec not big played eve beta…this is a bigger robbery than the Failminion patch that started the decline of the playerbase off in 2010 and they still have not stopped trying to screw people’s gaming time since then , i do not understand it we should have over a hundred thousand star systems by now and a 100k + online playerbase but CCP just keeps on sticking the knife in people’s as to no good effect or reason. except playerhate that i can tell. and you stick that adapt bs right up the hole it came out of ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/166 "2020-02-12T07:41:40Z")
May I have your stuff, please? ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/167 "2020-02-12T07:42:46Z")
one of the real problems in this whole thing is this idea that people are somehow “content” for other people and are once again trying to feed the loudest screams on the forums more 'content" like a bunch of Slavers or fighting pit owners ---
**Author:** ![Kira\_Hhallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kira_hhallas/32/401600_2.png) [@Kira\_Hhallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kira_Hhallas)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/168 "2020-02-12T07:52:56Z")
Just like in RL 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/169 "2020-02-12T08:02:13Z")
> [@SeerinDarkness](#): > > And Fragging over minerals prices with this BS… In what world are high mineral prices BAD for miners? ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/170 "2020-02-12T08:02:24Z")
people complain about bots and all that but this in the main is CCP’s fault to begin with when they cut the playerbase out from under big alliances with derogatory game changes they let the devs get away with just to get at one piece of the playerbase at the time. there is a reason people should Not do everything they can to everyone else. and the day will come when this finnaly truly bites the devs in the as\* and i hope i get to see it. ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/171 "2020-02-12T08:04:21Z")
it is a artificial price engenderd not by natural changes of supply and demand but someone sticking the knife in the game again. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/172 "2020-02-12T08:05:49Z")
Not it isnt. CCP making a change is an environmental change. I ask again, how is higher prices bad for sellers? ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/173 "2020-02-12T08:06:55Z")
there is zero reason for the change. except players whining that the devs want to shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/174 "2020-02-12T08:07:36Z")
You appear to be unable to answer the question. Are you sure you understand what is actually happening? ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/175 "2020-02-12T08:10:49Z")
yep i do they are trying to get at the so called Umbrells’s people keep bitching about but it is not going to work 5 mins after the update the market adapted by trebeling minerals prices AND i bet that the so call minerals stocks they think they are getting at are far vaster than they believe and even a Decade of depletion is likely not going to be effective to the so called rationing they envision ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/176 "2020-02-12T08:11:40Z")
> [@SeerinDarkness](#): > > they are trying to get at the so called Umbrells’s people keep bitching about No, that isnt whats happening. But why would a miner not want treble prices for the ore they mine? ---
**Author:** ![Kira\_Hhallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kira_hhallas/32/401600_2.png) [@Kira\_Hhallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kira_Hhallas)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/177 "2020-02-12T08:13:18Z")
ah come on, you cant blame player to go to a bigger alliance. And player still people, and they will go the way with the lowest resistence and danger… most of them. Is there an Easy Way to make ISK… they will do it. So if its easyer to harvest Minerals in NS, with a bigger SuperCAP Umbrella, they will go to the Goons. If they want do mining in there own System, rent a system or go to W-Space. As I said, it was only a matter of time, at the moment we had Athanors with Moon Mining and the NS ors in the Belts. ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/178 "2020-02-12T08:14:46Z")
just because the price skyrockets does not mean the minerals will be avaliable for the industry types to build with hmmm…what does the game do when all the people Making the stuff for the player markets Quit because they can not make anything to sell that will sell anymore on the markes and alliances will just make the stuff they need and screw your markets ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/179 "2020-02-12T08:16:05Z")
You really do talk the most sh1t and whine like a baby. Honestly, if you are so fkn unhappy then leave. But you won’t cos you like to be miserable. You fkn love it! I see you in our channels and you are the same miserable fkr there too. People like you should just avoid the internet tbh. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/180 "2020-02-12T08:17:06Z")
I think you are exaggerating the outcome of this somewhat. This change does not put any ore out of reach or remove it from the game. Also, have you had a look at the markets? Theres no chance ships will suddenly dry up. There is an overwhelming surplus, thats why most ships are dirt cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Kira\_Hhallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kira_hhallas/32/401600_2.png) [@Kira\_Hhallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kira_Hhallas)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/181 "2020-02-12T08:18:25Z")
Yeah, and people cant learn any new skills to adapet to this. You can learn how you Produce thingsm ships, stuff You can Form a Mining and Industrie Corps and sell Stuff… or you can do this on your own. What i only see, is someone, who cant imagine the options in EVE, and you limites only set by the boarders of your Mind and Willing in this game. ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/182 "2020-02-12T08:18:32Z")
i never see you in fleets go back to your own hole. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Boggart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/johnny_boggart/32/503767_2.png) [@Johnny\_Boggart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Johnny_Boggart)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941/183 "2020-02-12T08:19:05Z")
It’s not that CCP hates miners… It is just that they want to nerf mining because right now, the fact is that there is way more mining & production compared to destruction. Mining is an activity that was too safe. With multiboxing, the same guy could come with a rorqual and 10 hulks and mine like crazy 20 hours a day and flood the market with ore… It was not really a probelm when the game was at top, but there is less and less destruction but more and more people mining afk. I’m a miner myself but mining have to become a real activity in the game, not an afk activity in which you can mine safely anywhere with a fleet of 20 account multiboxing… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hates-miners-confirmed/218941.md?page=10)