# CCP. Here is how to start healing EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340 "2022-09-25T14:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/54 "2022-10-04T04:36:18Z")
Yes and then the progressive masterpiece… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/0/7/c074bad7370a27397c89f6efb064492c7e1a431d.jpeg "Spinal Tap - Stonehenge") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAXzzHM8zLw) ---
**Author:** ![Namaros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namaros/32/461419_2.png) [@Namaros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namaros)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/56 "2022-10-04T09:26:05Z")
Some people spend 80k, but on EVE. I would pick diploma, but thats just me. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/57 "2022-10-04T12:23:16Z")
> [@Mii\_Lady](#): > > lower the price back down. I was literally on the brink of making my second account Omega when they announced the price rise. Instead I ‘put off’ that decision. CCP _could_ now be getting two lots of Omega from me. I can’t be the only one for whom this sort of thing applies. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/58 "2022-10-04T13:58:46Z")
Indeed, reduce the price back to 14.99. That will bring people back. For those asking for “more content”, more people = more content, at least for many of us. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I was literally on the brink of making my second account Omega when they announced the price rise same here, on equal footing with no end to the pcu drop and ccp not addressing it in any way. So, drastic and immediate measure: lower the price again on subs. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/59 "2022-10-04T14:31:16Z")
Myself and many I know were on the fence even at the original price. I think $9.99 would be fair for what EVE is currently. ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/60 "2022-10-04T15:12:24Z")
I have an idea… Why not let CCP make the game they way want to, and us, as participants and denizens of their creation, have to work out the best way toplay that suits us as an individual… And stop bloody complaining; just play the damn game… ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/61 "2022-10-04T17:28:31Z")
Ah but you see, others are attempting to turn the game into something it isn’t 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/62 "2022-10-04T17:34:11Z")
min-maxing how many likes/shares/cuddles per hour to get? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/63 "2022-10-04T17:39:56Z")
Pretty much. Sadly, your playstyle will fall by the wayside as well. ---
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/high_priestess_seana/32/509548_2.png) [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/High_Priestess_Seana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/64 "2022-10-04T18:11:13Z")
i agree with new ships. so many new ships they could do even with exisiting models/balance… like a Rokh with a 8 missile fit (easily could be stat fixed or a Navy Variant) more amarr ships with missile bonuses or even existing ships with missile fit options (specific to EM like how min is explosive and Caldari Kinetic) could be something like SUBFACTION ships or some kind of ship part instead of Navy (think Khanid Kingdom for Amarr that does missiles) maybe a drone boat for Caldari / Minmatar (and again lore wise they don’t specialize these in anyway but doesn’t mean they should not have at least 1 ship capable of it) maybe a NEW MODULE that alters ships bonuses aka Jury Rig Slot: (similar to tech 3 ships, but it modifies existing ships and only 1 slot) EXAMPLE: Cost: Khanid Kingdom LP store - item + BPC versions -Small, Medium, Large, X-large of course (maybe just do ship SPECIFIC, not sure, would depend how deep this would go) “Khanid Kingdom Missile Weapon System” - Alters AMARR BASED laser ship bonuses to be that of of Missiles of similar size and swaps laser hardpoint count with Missile hardpoint count (aka if 5:1 it becomes 1:5) ROF → ROF Weapon Cap bonus → Fitting bonus Damage → Missile EM Damage + 1/2 bonus to other types Range → Flight Time Tracking → Explosion Radius soo in theory you should have a Cruise Missile APOC, a Corercer with rockets/Light missiles. maybe even allow some cross faction stuff. Slot: Amarr Laser platform - Replaces Hybrids on Caldari Ships _insert some bonus_ Description: to tighten the alliance between Amarr and the Caldari, they shared technology with each other in a new jury rig kit specialized for existing ships. to stop the approaching aggression from the Minmatar slaves and the Evil Gallente federation seeking to remap the existing landscape of known space by building new gates. Slot: Gallente Drone Computer - Reduces weapon systems in favor of drone capabilties on minmatar ships. Description: to tighten the alliance between Minmatar and the Gallente they shared technology with each other in a new jury rig kit specialized for existing ships. to stop the approaching aggression from the Abusive Caldari and the Evil Amarrian empire who are playing with dangerous trig tech. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/65 "2022-10-04T18:58:18Z")
That would be a nightmare to balance, and we already have something like 200 ships in the game as it is… ---
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/high_priestess_seana/32/509548_2.png) [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/High_Priestess_Seana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/66 "2022-10-04T19:00:31Z")
EVE has never been about balance Technically, but about bringing the right tools to a fight to counter your enemy for a clear victory. most of the _“un-balance-ness”_ comes from BLING it’s balance via Rock paper Scissors, just now some times what you think might be a rock is really Scissors as your paper. and I say this a high sec care-bear that only recently started FW, but same principle applies in PVE ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/67 "2022-10-04T19:15:52Z")
remove missiles and drones from amarr ships make them laser only missile legion should give jail time IMO ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/68 "2022-10-04T19:56:59Z")
> [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > i agree with new ships. So basically you wanna chuck balance out the window along with racial specialties and basically have your cake and eat it too. Got it 😃 > [@QuakeGod](#): > > That would be a nightmare to balance, and we already have something like 200 ships in the game as it is… Yup. But apparently we don’t need balance 😃 We just need shiny new OP ships! I mean why not have a BS class ship that can do everything and only takes command 1 to fly right? And can fit combat mods/mining mods/expo mods all at once and all together? ROFL. > [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > EVE has never been about balance Technically, but about bringing the right tools to a fight to counter your enemy for a clear victory. most of the _“un-balance-ness”_ comes from BLING Actually no. The unbalanced doesn’t come from “bling” LOL. It’s clear you have no idea what would actually be balanced. > [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > and I say this a high sec care-bear that only recently started FW, but same principle applies in PVE Not really. PvE and PvP are totally different ball games. It is very clear you got no idea what you’re talking about 😃 ---
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/high_priestess_seana/32/509548_2.png) [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/High_Priestess_Seana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/69 "2022-10-04T20:17:53Z")
nah it’s clear you don’t. there really is that much different from pve and pvp… you gear for the fight/area your going into with what you can afford. if you know what the enemy is using (NPC’s or Players) you gear up to counter that…like say if i knew i was going up against a fleet of trig ships piloted by players or NPC…i probably want to have heavy explosive/therm resist and if PVP lock down capability/EWAR and PVE more tank/gank. if anything adding this kind of system adds a BIT of a unknown factor that makes it harder to counter people meaning you need to engage in a PVP fight know what your fighting 100%, maybe could add a scanning bit to this that shows the ship and module type of said ship to make scanning your enemy more critical to knowing how to counter. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/70 "2022-10-04T20:23:16Z")
> [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > there really is that much different from pve and pvp… you gear for the fight/area your going into with what you can afford. ROFL. Uh huh. > [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > if you know what the enemy is using (NPC’s or Players) you gear up to counter that…like say if i knew i was going up against a fleet of trig ships piloted by players or NPC…i probably want to have heavy explosive/therm resist and if PVP lock down capability/EWAR and PVE more tank/gank. Yes. With NPCs, you always know. With players, often times you don’t know as much. You basically just want OP shiny ships with no regard to any sort of balance. Hence why you aren’t being taken seriously. You realize everyone knows you have no clue right? ---
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/high_priestess_seana/32/509548_2.png) [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/High_Priestess_Seana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/71 "2022-10-04T20:25:10Z")
how is a Ship having it’s bonus moved to a different set OP? please tell everyone…it’s not like your improving a ships numbers like say from a standard ship to Navy varient… there is nothing OP about it… it’s basically t3 cruisers lite without improvements to the existing ship. allows for more builds without just increasing the ship count for the sake of increasing it to make a ship with the same stats but different bonuses. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/72 "2022-10-04T20:34:31Z")
😃 You’re so naïve, it’s cute 😃 I get it. You want shiny. Do some more FW, you’ll start to understand. ---
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/high_priestess_seana/32/509548_2.png) [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/High_Priestess_Seana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/73 "2022-10-04T20:38:56Z")
lol FW is fun…just saw a blaster corumont slay a blinged out Kiki. (most of my interactions is I kill someone/small fleet and that someone brings his 20 friends to kill me/us back) FW numbers mean more then ships honestly, but hard countering can make up for the lack of numbers also ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/74 "2022-10-04T21:36:12Z")
No, you can’t back out now. You got the ball rolling on this idea, so when do I get my dual armor rep laser Drake? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=4)