# CCP. Here is how to start healing EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340 "2022-09-25T14:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/high_priestess_seana/32/509548_2.png) [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/High_Priestess_Seana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/75 "2022-10-04T21:55:32Z")
i love the idea of a laser drake… especially VISUALLY. but you know you want a laser Rokh in amarr gold colors! but never once suggested armor/shield changes and that would be something done better on a new ship altogether because those kind of systems are usually balanced based on the ship stats/layout where weapons are LESS so/easier to work around without changing the role of said ship. EDIT: some ships can use both systems though… every flown a shield arbitrator or Armageddon? never done it in PVP but I know it has a use in PVE. ---
**Author:** ![Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cendric_de_credsiu/32/409668_2.png) [@Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cendric_De_Credsiu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/77 "2022-10-04T22:14:21Z")
One of my favorite games is basically not in existence anymore due to the dev doing the same things CCP is doing. He drove all the players away that enjoyed the PvE content. Then of course all the PvPers left as they no longer had anybody to hunt except each other. They do need to make sure that people are wanting to log into the game and play the game, yes they can develop the game they want but obviously the changes they are making are harming their game and the player base by driving more and more people away. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, if you don’t have engaging PvE content for players to go do and enjoy and keep it updated (aka grass) you loose the PvE players. Without the PvE players (aka sheep) the PvPers (aka wolves) have no one to hunt except each other. They soon get bored with that and then leave themselves for a game that provides them with that content. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/78 "2022-10-04T23:10:38Z")
> [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > but never once suggested armor/shield changes and that would be something done better on a new ship altogether because those kind of systems are usually balanced based on the ship stats/layout where weapons are LESS so/easier to work around without changing the role of said ship. So you are aware its hard to balance ship changes. Yet you want shiny new OP ships. Interesting 😃 ---
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/high_priestess_seana/32/509548_2.png) [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/High_Priestess_Seana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/79 "2022-10-04T23:21:54Z")
your obsessed with the word OVERPOWERED…like your afraid of losing. want new ships or being able to use ships in a new way is not OP… it’s NEW. a ROKH can fit lasers now, just doesn’t have the bonuses for it. we alreayd have ships that can use LASERS AND SHIELDS (sansha) it would still and always be weaker then a sansha pirate battleship. but it adds variation/choice. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/80 "2022-10-05T00:14:47Z")
Afraid of losing? I lose all the time 😃 You do not understand balance at all or how fragile the meta can be or how smart players can be to twist things to their advantage. Stick to what you know, which is apparently wanting slaves in game 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Omnis\_Decline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omnis_decline/32/335677_2.png) [@Omnis\_Decline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omnis_Decline)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/81 "2022-10-05T05:07:30Z")
> [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > your obsessed with the word OVERPOWERED…like your afraid of losing. > > want new ships or being able to use ships in a new way is not OP… it’s NEW. > > a ROKH can fit lasers now, just doesn’t have the bonuses for it. we alreayd have ships that can use LASERS AND SHIELDS (sansha) > > it would still and always be weaker then a sansha pirate battleship. but it adds variation/choice. I’m currently building a Rifter with missiles as a fun side project. Is it a good idea? Probably not. The ship has bonuses for the “wrong” weapons for this to be a high-tier fit. But it’ll be fun and look pretty, and that’s what I care about here. I’m going to use it for joyriding, and it’ll be fairly cheap to replace once I have everything set up for it. Do I want to lose it? No. Will I be disappointed when I lose one? Sure. Am I going to be surprised that someone killed me with my fancy ship? NOPE. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/82 "2022-10-05T06:51:43Z")
> [@High\_Priestess\_Seana](#): > > OVERPOWERED EVE is totally balanced pics unrelated ![E5m54a5p2gv7txiwUjQTXW](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/8/b/58b92cd617cb8ac7aa5662aa991f0257ba3efcb7.jpeg) ![images](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/0/0/f0072372c61f8361d416f48e33279106f5e69200.jpeg) ![render](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/7/5/475ba1a1b4f6da1874a22aae64532cc0426eb397.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/83 "2022-10-05T10:08:46Z")
It was $15 though and that was better. Why is that hard for you to grasp? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/84 "2022-10-05T10:20:40Z")
> [@Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](#): > > Then of course all the PvPers left as they no longer had anybody to hunt except each other. You’re mostly right. The true PvP player is happy to engage another PvP player. The ones that hunt carebears in HS aren’t true PvP players. [The events of World War II showed the disastrous consequences of the absence of a convention for the protection of civilians in wartime.](https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/INTRO/380) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/85 "2022-10-05T10:36:57Z")
Uh there are no civilians in EvE. Capsuleers are NOT civilians ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/87 "2022-10-05T11:03:48Z")
Dude thats an active editable ticket. You need to remove that link before someone less nice than me edits it on you. I can see how you got hacked though if you do this kind of thing. ---
**Author:** ![OT\_Smithers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ot_smithers/32/431246_2.png) [@OT\_Smithers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OT_Smithers)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/89 "2022-10-05T15:24:46Z")
I like quite a few of these ideas. Others mean nothing to me, personally. A few, such as NPCs randomly interfering in PvP, are a really bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/90 "2022-10-05T18:05:40Z")
> [@Omnis\_Decline](#): > > I’m currently building a Rifter with missiles as a fun side project. Is it a good idea? Probably not. You want the T2 variant for that 😃 > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > You’re mostly right. The true PvP player is happy to engage another PvP player. The ones that hunt carebears in HS aren’t true PvP players. Oh? How so? Everyone is a PvP player as soon as they undock 😃 Also uh, you know EVE is a vidya game right? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/91 "2022-10-05T21:21:38Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Capsuleers are NOT civilians I disagree. Anyone that isn’t a “combatant” IS a civilian. Do you honestly want to compare someone lured into the game by advertising directed towards mining/industrial to a hardcore PvP player? Lines need to be drawn. The game was designed to have a layer of separation between different playstyles. I know you don’t agree with that either, so don’t bother reminding me. At any rate, it’s clear that the community wants that as evidenced by the declining player count. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > as soon as they undock Please find new material. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/93 "2022-10-05T22:01:33Z")
EVE is first and foremost a PVP game. Period. There is absolutely nothing you can do in EVE aside from Project Discovery that doesn’t include the possibility of unwanted PVP… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/94 "2022-10-05T22:02:40Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > Do you honestly want to compare someone lured into the game by advertising directed towards mining/industrial I cant say Ive seen that advertising. But Capsuleers arent civilians vOv take it up with the lore, not me. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/96 "2022-10-05T22:11:55Z")
Every activity in EVE, aside from Project Discovery and station trading, also includes the possibility of non-consensual combat PVP… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/98 "2022-10-05T22:21:37Z")
Another Therad highjacked and mutated to a Antiganking Disskussions - use the already existing contributions to the topic. Removing multiple OT Posts now. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/99 "2022-10-05T22:25:21Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > But that’s not what makes it “first and foremost a PvP game”. Just like how pretty much everything used in terms of ships and equipment is dependent on PvE, and that doesn’t make EVE first and foremost a PvE game. Sorry bro. Thems the brakes. You consent to PvP as soon as you undock. Don’t like it? HTFU 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/100 "2022-10-05T22:27:03Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Is it my fault you’re trynna quote WW2 stuff Do you know why they call them the Greatest Generation? Don’t disrespect our forbears. Oh wait, you don’t understand the word. NM. > [@QuakeGod](#): > > There is absolutely nothing you can do in EVE And the numbers show it. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > EVE is PvP in that most mechanics are cooperative and competitive. This, I agree with. > [@QuakeGod](#): > > possibility of non-consensual combat PVP ![2_destruction_value_by_region](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/d/e/2defeb8b9aa433ed11ee31e2fec0d00fc474704e.png) > [@ISD\_Traindriver](#): > > Another Therad highjacked and mutated to a Antiganking Disskussions The OP is “how to start healing EVE”. Offering AG as a way to heal Eve is 100% on topic IMO. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=5)