# CCP. Here is how to start healing EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340 "2022-09-25T14:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/143 "2022-10-08T04:18:24Z")
High Sec. Low Sec. Null Sec. Seems pretty obvious to anyone that has spent time in all three. ---
**Author:** ![Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cendric_de_credsiu/32/409668_2.png) [@Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cendric_De_Credsiu)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/144 "2022-10-08T04:39:17Z")
Even in High Sec you should be in danger of loosing your ship. Yes, somebody that attacks you is going to die from Concord however they if they get enough numbers together should still be able to take out your ship even there. However, Highsec specially if you are paying attention ect is still relatively safe. You paid for the higher safety with less Isk generation. You also in the past before abyssal’s became a thing where not able to make as much ISK in High Sec as you could in Null or even Low. Now you can make just as much if not more than you ever could in null sec just running abyssal’s. If you know what you are doing you will rarely to never get caught coming into or out of the abyssal. Thats an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/145 "2022-10-08T05:01:07Z")
I would do 9.99$ for first and 19.99$ for additional accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/146 "2022-10-08T05:13:35Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > Make Ventures **untargetable** … No problem, we will start ganking ventures using smartbombing thrashers. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/147 "2022-10-08T05:16:06Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > So you’re saying that there’s NO ROOM in Eve’s MASSIVE Universe for people that want to be left alone? Do you know what that makes you sound like? Why does it have to be your way, and only your way? Inclusive isn’t a bad thing. I know a game that has an even more massive galaxy. Approximately 400 billion systems (thanks to Frontiers Skybox Engine) _ **and** _ it comes with three modes of play. Solo, for those antisocial types that just want to be left alone. Group, for you and your weird group friends that are socially awkward and stand around in front of the dollar general. And last but not least, Open, for those saucy individuals that like playing mmorpgs with random, and potentially psychotic, pvp happy strangers. The game is called “Elite Dangerous” and I think it ticks all your xenophobic boxes! You can pick it up on steam, and it’s compatible with really cool flight simulator joysticks. I prefer the Saitek X52 myself. Affordable yet functional! ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/148 "2022-10-08T05:19:51Z")
yo u know what is funny about that game…i saw post somewhere once…where a guy complained about EvE and Elite Dangerous in the same breathe…his screnshots showed an NPC interdicting him, that NPC demanded to see his mining permit…and it was a member of a factionc named CODE That players salt was so delicious reading it back then…think i saw it shortly b4 the covid thing broke out…imagine complaining about an NPC demanding to see your mining permit LOL ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/149 "2022-10-08T05:34:53Z")
> There’s a place in your heart > And I know that it is love > And this place it was brighter than tomorrow > Heal the world > Make it a better place > For you and for me, and the entire human race ❤ ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/150 "2022-10-08T07:01:56Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > So you’re saying that there’s NO ROOM in Eve’s MASSIVE Universe for people that want to be left alone? Do you know what that makes you sound like? Why does it have to be your way, and only your way? Inclusive isn’t a bad thing. Yes, they don’t belong here. They literally chose to play a massively multiplayer online open world PvP game. Don’t like? HTFU and get a plot in Stardew 😃 > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > You couldn’t be more wrong. The people that want to be left alone aren’t complaining about it, they’re just quitting. Your statement is completely upside down and counterintuitive. > > You didn’t answer my question. Why not give those people a place to enjoy PvE? I don’t think you have an answer and will just continue with the whole drivel your lot clings too. > > Look at where the majority of assets are destroyed: As they should quit because this isn’t the game for them. And yes, it makes sense the destruction is there. Due to player crying, EVE’s topography is all messed up. Used to be people actually went into low. Now there is almost no need. Buff low, nerf high and you’ll see those numbers change 😃 > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > Stop being an a-hole and let people have some space they actually want to spend time in. There’s a clinical term for people like you. They can. Simply play NMS 😃 Oh? A clinical term? Interesting. What qualifies you to make that medical diagnosis sight unseen? How many prog notes have you done? Do they have anything PRN? What are they getting qshift? ---
**Author:** ![Namaros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namaros/32/461419_2.png) [@Namaros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namaros)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/151 "2022-10-08T07:42:45Z")
25$ for a sub! 20$ for 50 Plex! Lets milk old farts before game is dead! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/152 "2022-10-08T08:59:59Z")
Heres what I dont get. You can have anything you want but you need to work for it. The more valuable the thing, the harder you have to work. Being left alone is so valuable to some people that when they see the amount of work they need to do (some) they cant face the effort and quit. But the working for it IS the game. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/153 "2022-10-08T10:45:20Z")
It’s what happens when you give _bloated egocentrism_ a megaphone. The reason for that conclusion ? That loud, thread producing subpart of the player base has **never** presented a single argument for which there are no highly valid and playable alternatives delivered by the game’s design. In fact they refute all offered solutions. It really is that easy. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/154 "2022-10-08T13:25:28Z")
> [@Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](#): > > If you know what you are doing you will rarely to never get caught coming into or out of the abyssal. How do you figure? They gank you after you exit when your tank has damage. They only need 1 person to scan you down and you only have 1 exit. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/155 "2022-10-08T13:55:07Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > The game is called “Elite Dangerous” and I think it ticks all your xenophobic boxes! So your way of healing Eve is to encourage people to play another game? Please see: # xen·o·pho·bic _adjective_ 1. having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries. “_the xenophobic undertones of this argument_” > [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > That players salt was so delicious reading it back then… You have a serious problem if other people’s pain brings you so much pleasure. Seriously. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Being left alone is so valuable to some people that when they see the amount of work they need to do (some) they cant face the effort and quit. Mining (for instance) IS work. Have you ever tried it? I can’t do it. Killing a mining vessel is NOT work. It’s punishment. And killing it ISN’T work, it’s easy. I’ll reword part of what you said to illustrate a good point: > when they see the amount of work they need to do (some) they can’t face the effort and become gankers > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > bloated egocentrism I’m not sure to whom that’s directed, I can’t only speak for myself. I speak for people that don’t or won’t speak for themselves. I’ve given a small fortune to the victims of ganking in an effort to curtail the obvious consequences. I don’t mine, I don’t haul and I don’t manufacture. I’ve been ganked before and for the most part, found it humorous. Gankers seem to get upset if you don’t cry in local. I guess those are ganker tears? > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > no highly valid and playable alternatives delivered by the game’s design. CCP has a choice, adapt or die. I’m sure they’ll send you a bumper sticker saying, “_I killed Eve Online_” with their few remaining funds. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/156 "2022-10-08T14:20:51Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > The people that want to be left alone People join a Massively _Multiplayer_ Online game to be left alone ?? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/157 "2022-10-08T14:58:03Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > So your way of healing Eve is to encourage people to play another game? Please see: So offering a suggestion, that you don’t like, isn’t considered “healing?” The player may like the other option more than what they are experiencing now. But that’s the problem with people like you. If someone doesn’t agree with you, you demonize them. Then toss out some low brain google search in an effort to validate your position. It’s clear that bro is miserable playing this game. So I offered a suggestion that may be more to his liking. It’s also clear that satire goes over your head. But to your credit, you did manage to catch the ironic wordplay. So that’s something I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/158 "2022-10-08T15:14:09Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > Mining (for instance) IS work. Have you ever tried it? Yes. Its not work. Avoiding being killed adds a little effort to that, so could be called work. > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I’ll reword part of what you said Id rather you didnt. I said exactly what I meant to say. People quit when they realise they have to put effort in to play. Repeating the tired old mantra of “ganking is effortless” utterly ignores reality. Anyway, you totally missed the point. If you want to be left alone, you must work out how. Its entirely possible but under no circumstances should it be easy. ---
**Author:** ![Frege\_Descartes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frege_descartes/32/247951_2.png) [@Frege\_Descartes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frege_Descartes)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/159 "2022-10-08T16:13:23Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > If someone doesn’t agree with you, you demonize them. Pot, meet Kettle. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Its entirely possible but under no circumstances should it be easy. You seem to have no real World experience that makes you an expert in this field. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/160 "2022-10-08T16:20:15Z")
> [@Frege\_Descartes](#): > > You seem to have no real World experience that makes you an expert in this field. Pot, meet kettle. ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/161 "2022-10-08T16:27:49Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > Why not give those people a place to enjoy PvE? They already made that, it’s called Echoes. Why aren’t you playing that rather than bleating ad nauseam as your ilk has done for years saying how you want to change EvE into what Echoes is? You got what you said you wanted. Just because it’s boring you don’t want to play it yet still want EvE to become it? Let EvE decline with some dignity at least. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/162 "2022-10-08T16:40:50Z")
> [@Frege\_Descartes](#): > > You seem to have no real World experience that makes you an expert in this field. You seem to have made that up to be edgy and have nothing to add. Demonstratable evidence, including the OP itself says Im correct. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=8)