# CCP. Here is how to start healing EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340 "2022-09-25T14:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/163 "2022-10-08T17:49:18Z")
> [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](#): > > They already made that, it’s called Echoes Yes, thank you! That’s already a game. Safe hi sec, an absolutely destroyed and useless economy, all the things these players want. Go there ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/164 "2022-10-08T19:07:03Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > How do you figure? They gank you after you exit when your tank has damage. They only need 1 person to scan you down and you only have 1 exit. Maybe don’t run abyssals right outside the station 😃 If you can’t figure out where to run abyssals without getting ganked, biomass kthx LOL. > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > So your way of healing Eve is to encourage people to play another game? Please see: > > # xen·o·pho·bic Um. That isn’t really the correct word bro. > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > Mining (for instance) IS work. Have you ever tried it? I can’t do it. Killing a mining vessel is NOT work. It’s punishment. And killing it ISN’T work, it’s easy. LOL says someone whose never hunted another player. Hunting an actively evading player is plenty of work 😃 > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I speak for people that don’t or won’t speak for themselves. Huh. Funny how they didn’t ask you to speak for them 😃 > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I’ve given a small fortune to the victims of ganking in an effort to curtail the obvious consequences. Good for you 😃 > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > CCP has a choice, adapt or die. I’m sure they’ll send you a bumper sticker saying, “_I killed Eve Online_” with their few remaining funds. Then it dies. But it died as it lived. I find it funny that ya’ll are such in terror of EVE ending. All good things end. I’d rather EVE end as it has lived, true to itself, than turn into safeland carebear paradise. ---
**Author:** ![Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dantelion_shinoni/32/383315_2.png) [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dantelion_Shinoni)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/165 "2022-10-08T20:17:38Z")
> it dies as it lived Or the game could get rid of players like you and finally thrive on players whose playstyle is not to ruin the one of others? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/166 "2022-10-08T20:26:00Z")
> [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](#): > > Or the game could get rid of players like you and finally thrive on players whose playstyle is not to ruin the one of others? How do I ruin their playstyle? They are literally playing the same game as me 😃 We are all playing an open world PvP game where you consent to PvP as soon as you undock. Is it my fault you guys don’t know the game you _chose_ to play? EVE has been alive for near 20 years. It used to be even more ruthless than it is now. So your theory is false mate 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/167 "2022-10-08T20:30:35Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I’m not sure to whom that’s directed, If the cap fits … and the shoe … and the glove … > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I speak for people that don’t or won’t speak for themselves Must be an entire legion. You should get yourself elected easily into the csm, where you can work “from the inside”. Walk in the park. I’m sure there are vast masses of players just waiting to start this game but won’t because of pvp in hisec. > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I’ve given a small fortune to the victims of ganking in an effort to curtail the obvious consequences. It’s called redemption, which you seem to need, judging from what your usual ganking victims are. It’s okay to gank, it’s not okay to be a complete hypocrit, no matter how deep your pockets. > **[The Knights of Pythias | Corporation](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98692789/)** > > The Knights of Pythias: 0 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost. > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I guess those are ganker tears? Nah, your lordship, I live in nullsec as a mobile, mindless F1 monkey, where I get space rich beyond your dreams, who only knows how to blob and ■■■■ talk in local, and whatever else you call it. > [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > CCP has a choice, adapt or die. Oh goodie. You learned the ancient rhetorical technique of instilling fear into the hearts. Well done. You can now join the ranks of soothsayers, wonder doctors, mad prophets, dodgy politicians, and assorted manipulators. They too try to seize any moment of insecurity and doubt to push their agendas. In case you still haven’t grasped this, here’s a rerun: the pcu drop at this moment is due to veterans leaving, or at least unsubbing/unplexing multiple accounts. If CCP needs to change anything it is to do some very intense soul searching about the past 3 years of changes to the game. _IF_ they are in ‘your’ camp, haven’t done their soul searching yet or don’t even question their obvious hubris, or climb the apex of bad leadership with “we won’t make individuals responsible, we as a company are responsible”, the game will die regardless. We are way past the band aid stage. As the company doesn’t have a good record on soul searching, the only thing that _may_ remedy the situation is an audit by their overlords with PA. Sad (as I doubt anyone within PA _understands_ this unique game) but true (given CCP’s procrastinating the inevitable). And you are a distraction, just like that other fellow. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/168 "2022-10-08T23:37:01Z")
Well said. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/169 "2022-10-08T23:44:52Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > People quit when they realise they have to put effort in to play. Repeating the tired old mantra of “ganking is effortless” utterly ignores reality. One player has join my corporation recently wanting to be a ganker and if I can teach him. Gotta say he is terrible, he is losing ships here and there not able to gank absolutely anything, he is giving free kills to AG. And he seems to be unable to learn. How is that possible if ganking is easy? I suppose he is a troll who joined me only to mess my killboard. Yeah, that is the only logical conclusion 😛 . ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/170 "2022-10-09T23:10:06Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > How is that possible if ganking is easy? Ganking is way too easy. You know this to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/171 "2022-10-09T23:57:05Z")
Only because people don’t do the bare minimum to stay alive LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/172 "2022-10-09T23:58:02Z")
Dont give ground. Just because he says it is, does not make it so, and you know it. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/173 "2022-10-09T23:58:45Z")
It isn’t hard to kill people who aren’t paying attention. Most HS ganks are AFK people. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/174 "2022-10-09T23:59:54Z")
It being not hard at its easiest is a world away from “way too easy”. And no, its not that easy. We arent all ■■■■■■■ super geniuses ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/175 "2022-10-10T00:13:35Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I speak for people that don’t or won’t speak for themselves. Roflmao. Theres been plenty of ppl complaining about eve, you dont speak for anyone dude. And before you group me in with gankers, im a solo pve player, who actually interacts with other players. Why, because i can and should interact with others. You can be solo all you want, but dont expect to be free from player interaction ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_J\_Spock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donald_j_spock/32/336534_2.png) [@Donald\_J\_Spock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donald_J_Spock)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/176 "2022-10-10T00:17:25Z")
Looking for some players to answer a few deposition questions about this game and online bullying. Preparing a lawsuit for the unlawful way they allow bullies to grief and harass players against many international online laws. PVP should only be optional and via consent period or it constitutes cyber bullying and real life harassment. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/177 "2022-10-10T00:20:04Z")
Heh please tell me this is satire. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/178 "2022-10-10T00:20:34Z")
Ha, you’re funny ---
**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/179 "2022-10-10T00:27:31Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Heh please tell me this is satire. Gankers and bullies need not respond. Of which you are both. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/180 "2022-10-10T00:28:53Z")
He is just misunderstood like all the other AG crowd. Cut him some slack he is trying to keep the peace! ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/181 "2022-10-10T00:41:55Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > Ganking is way too easy. You know this to be true. “If you find yourself in a fair fight, you failed in your planning” The effort in ganking isn’t at the point of the gank itself - that part comes down to RNG + n+1 for results. The effort in ganking is in the preparation and depends on the purpose… For example; groups going after freighters for profit have more than a bit of coordination involved whereas solo salt-gathering hunters such as myself go through many, many systems (because some folks are paying attention, you know) reading the situation through D-scan, looking for the marks. Just because _you_ don’t know what is involved doesn’t mean it’s all “easy”. Yeah, by the time the blasters are about to caress you gently is not where the effort in ganking is. Gudfites are not for the ganking gig, harvesting beautiful, beatifult salt is. Gudfites are gotten elsewhere. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/c/6/ac6296def45c076fb672ba61a823ba8dab46cbaa.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_J\_Spock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donald_j_spock/32/336534_2.png) [@Donald\_J\_Spock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donald_J_Spock)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340/182 "2022-10-10T00:43:01Z")
Ok tough guy adding this as yet another example of careless griefing and cyber bullying allowed for no good reason. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-here-is-how-to-start-healing-eve/378340.md?page=9)