# CCP Hilmar, CCP Falcon, and CCP Goodfella reveal their plans for an Eve Era of CHAOS in this new interview! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261 "2019-07-26T18:43:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/285 "2019-07-30T14:23:12Z")
> [@Kerono\_Thalmor](#): > > Yes, despite this, you’ve a long way to go, I’m sorry to say. There are many problems yet left to fix. If i was to put eve in a metaphor i’d liken it to a mouth-ridden hole invested shirt, shredded to pieces that someone is trying to sell and market as being something amazing, when its really… just a hole ridden shirt. This is not an attack on the game itself, it has good concepts to it, like that player narrative which is truly unique. However, so many things have been played with in an manner which lacks any signature of intelligence, the only destined result of this is systems that have huge issues, or holes in them. Imo, it’d be easier making a eve v2 then fixing this mess. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/286 "2019-07-30T14:44:50Z")
Ventures and expensive gas ftw. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/287 "2019-07-30T20:56:05Z")
Absolutely spot on. Personally I would like to see the cyno nerfed in a major way if the blackout continues. What I did notice is that after your posted the HTFU players jumped on you. That was how good your post was. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/288 "2019-07-30T21:00:34Z")
> [@Sordina](#): > > I believe because my old friends are coming back to game They have left out of boredom correct? Blackout increased pvp activity a little and people already report it decreasing. Does this mean that as soon as fun ends they will leave again? ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/289 "2019-07-30T21:01:23Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > like to see the cyno nerfed cool then we only need a way to shut down gates and we’re as safe as the scarebears living in Wormholes ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/290 "2019-07-30T22:08:28Z")
Gate control = hole control doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/291 "2019-07-30T22:17:18Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > cool then we only need a way to shut down gates and we’re as safe as the scarebears living in Wormholes Watching you null bears having to survive without logistical support would be funny as hell and think of all the freights that could be killed 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/292 "2019-07-31T02:53:12Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > They have left out of boredom correct? No. They left because EVE failed to be EVE. Null became safest place in universe, stagnation and domination of one group… Anyway, most of them actually don’t do PvP. So if prey is coming back on it’s own, this mean something. Funny is how people think that only person that like blackout are PvP folks. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/293 "2019-07-31T04:54:38Z")
> [@Sordina](#): > > Null became safest place in universe, stagnation and domination of one group… If they left because of that then… They are back not for long anyway. That’s why i consider the whole recent move a fail: CCP is replacing long term players with those who already had left once and will leave again as soon as they see reason for that. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/294 "2019-07-31T05:18:15Z")
But blackout is only tip of the mountain. If I remember correctly, you said that after several days of blackout we can’t judge anything but you are blindly trusting in your arguments when CCP only started to bring changes. No need to argue about unknown. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/295 "2019-07-31T07:08:09Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > mouth-ridden hole invested Sorry this has bothered my OCD all night. Did you mean “hole-riddled moth-infested”? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/296 "2019-07-31T07:26:42Z")
> [@Sordina](#): > > CCP is fixing mistakes How is what they are doing “fixing mistakes”? ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/297 "2019-07-31T07:32:13Z")
> [@Sordina](#): > > No. They left because EVE failed to be EVE. Null became safest place in universe, stagnation and domination of one group… what does it mean “to be EVE”? Since this game was a sandbox game everyone defined it differently. EVE will fail to be EVE when it deviates from a sandbox. The new changes push it out of the sandbox. Null never became the safest place in the universe, stagnation is a meme word that people just throw around, and domination of one group is not the games doing but of the players and the new changes lead to their strengthening… ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/298 "2019-07-31T07:41:50Z")
> [@Milto\_Farroads](#): > > what does it mean “to be EVE”? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/f/1fd906fc1b151aa824b315ed6968d7829c7e3da9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/299 "2019-07-31T07:44:38Z")
> [@Milto\_Farroads](#): > > The new changes push it out of the sandbox. I can’t afk grind 24/7 so it’s no longer sandbox. I get you… ---
**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/300 "2019-07-30T21:48:29Z")
Cash grab, skins, more skins, exciting new projects that will fail, corporate buzzwords or something akin that are just un-realistic of the reality of the situation - chaos, for sure - Congratulations to CCP Hilmar for the last 5 years. Onwards and upwards no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/301 "2019-07-30T23:09:10Z")
Guessing this thread will be closed shortly. (Edit: this was in reply to another thread which was merged here) Unfortunately I have to agree that CCP is much better at _talking_ about a harsh, edgy, conflict-oriented game than they are at _implementing_ one. Merely “pulling the rug out from under everyone” every month or so, or making broad, untargeted changes like the tax changes won’t fix fundamentally flawed design. I’m fine with the tax/fee changes btw, but as an example of the kind of ‘flawed design’ issues I often refer to - if they want conflict, they should have considered something like: Taxes + Fees at 8% in 1.0 space. Drops by 0.75% per sec level. So in 0.1 space they would be 1.25%. I’d probably toss in a +2% in Sov Null space or something. That would add at least _some_ incentive for trading in more dangerous space. Not saying this is a good or workable change, just tossing it out as an example of “You can make a lazy, broad, one-shot change that does very little except sink some more ISK, make the rich richer and the poor poorer; or you can make a change that is a little more nuanced and creates niches for profit and for conflict”. CCP always seems to go for the former approach, and misses opportunity after opportunity for the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/302 "2019-07-31T03:06:58Z")
Oh look, more doomsday criers. Inb4 the lock. 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/303 "2019-07-31T07:04:52Z")
It is true though. Falcon couldnt even answer a straight question about injectors truthfully. Dark times indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/304 "2019-07-31T07:18:56Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Falcon couldnt even answer a straight question Have you taken a good look at that face? He couldn’t make it straight if his life depended on it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=16)