# CCP Hilmar, CCP Falcon, and CCP Goodfella reveal their plans for an Eve Era of CHAOS in this new interview! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261 "2019-07-26T18:43:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/305 "2019-07-31T07:19:22Z")
Yeah but that bod ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/306 "2019-07-31T08:20:16Z")
> [@Milto\_Farroads](#): > > The new changes push it out of the sandbox. Yet the hundreds of changes before this did not stop it being a sandbox!! These changes are good. Adapt or die. ---
**Author:** ![Xelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xelios/32/192236_2.png) [@Xelios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xelios)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/307 "2019-07-31T08:39:15Z")
> [@Milto\_Farroads](#): > > stagnation is a meme word that people just throw around Ironically sandbox is also a meme word that people just throw around. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/308 "2019-07-31T09:17:26Z")
> [@Mazina\_Z](#): > > More an era of empty null I choose empty over sleeping Krabs anyday. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/309 "2019-07-31T09:30:13Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > How is what they are doing “fixing mistakes”? By taking care of mass botters and RMTers for good ? ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/310 "2019-07-31T09:55:31Z")
> [@SeerinDarkness](#): > > sadly actually they are forcing pvp on everyone EVE is a PVPVE game, never been any different. > [@SeerinDarkness](#): > > trying to force industry players into pvp the moment you sold anything to the enemy, that’s the moment you engaged in PVP, nobody made you, you just didn’t see the bigger picture. > [@SeerinDarkness](#): > > what happens to your player markets when there is noone supplying them? never think for a second you can’t be replaced, there is other industrial/traders always waiting for their chance to fill those orders. > [@SeerinDarkness](#): > > what kind of rpk stoopids are you? you need to ask yourself this. ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/311 "2019-07-31T10:35:49Z")
no - plex was another way ccp could make money. With gtc you have strict limits how much you could sell - people bought it only if want extands account, with plex that limits does not exists anymore. It damaged ingame economy badly i make ccp profits for sure. plex was gold for speculants for years, and destroyed old order and rtm with plex i probably 10 times more then gtc. ---
**Author:** ![ExcalibursTemplar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/excaliburstemplar/32/383837_2.png) [@ExcalibursTemplar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ExcalibursTemplar)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/312 "2019-07-31T10:44:29Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Ban Caps from LowSec while allowing bubbles and bombs, As someone that lives in lowsec, roams a lot in low for pew pew i think that’s a terrible idea. What low needs is a frigging good ISK source. Not related to bloody LP and sodding dogtags. It also could do with lower sec status hits when you do engage in pvp. As it’s a pain in the ■■■■■■■ arse having to pay for tags or grinding npc so you can still get into highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/313 "2019-07-31T10:59:01Z")
it is realy good time to die ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/314 "2019-07-31T14:59:46Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > That’s why i consider the whole recent move a fail: CCP is replacing long term players with those who already had left once and will leave again as soon as they see reason for that. CCP is changing things because nullsec became stagnant and boring. Most gamers play EVE for fun and that’s not what nullsec provided. The problem, as they explain in the podcast ist that the players basically reached a point of stability that discourages conflict. This is obviously human nature and probably bound to happen if you run a sandbox for 16 years. What they try to do now is change that and try new ways to disrupt the balance to make it interesting again and retain the current players before they all leave out of boredom. The podcast is pretty interesting, as it shows how deep they actually think about EVE and how they try to adjust the game to make it fun again. Not everything may work and there will be, have to be, serious disruptions in the meta, but in the end EVE needs this or it will stagnate further. ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shai_hulud/32/279251_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/315 "2019-07-31T15:33:38Z")
CCP has finally realized these new players they have been aiming to replace us with simply don’t exist. This game has always struggled to retain new players and it would take a LOT more than yet another NPE revamp and making the game safer for new players to change that. Given such, keeping players that have shown long term interest in the game has been and will continue to be the only viable model for this game. These efforts towards “chaos” are quite clearly aimed in this direction, but it may be too little too late. How Hilmar still has a job I do not understand at all… he has only been wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Zedrasta\_Kasztaban](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zedrasta_kasztaban/32/329811_2.png) [@Zedrasta\_Kasztaban](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zedrasta_Kasztaban)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/316 "2019-07-31T15:38:57Z")
Talk is cheap. Shaking up the game is good. Changing things just for the sake of change in the hopes that random changes will ‘fix’ things is not so good. Show me some good reasons why a new player would start out in EVE today, and I’ll admit you have some growth potential. Show me “we’re changing things to desperately try to hang on to the players we already have” and I’ll say your game is headed for maintenance mode. But at least, they are making significant changes. Remains to be seen how well designed those will be. ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/317 "2019-07-31T17:35:07Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > By taking care of mass botters and RMTers for good ? except they dont, botters can easyly bot their way around these changes On the other hand ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/318 "2019-07-31T17:57:49Z")
Ahhahahaha You’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/319 "2019-07-31T18:01:01Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > CCP is changing things because nullsec became stagnant and boring. Most gamers play EVE for fun and that’s not what nullsec provided. somehow, i dont think that players that live in nullsec thought it that stagnant and boring and at least those that some call derogatorily nullbears certainly have no fun with the changes. In the last years there are non-stop conflicts in nullsec (Co2 vs test, panfam vs legacy, fire vs winter, goons vs ncdot). Stability doesnt discourage conflict, the other way around: lack of conflict creates stability, you break stability by conflict. But players avoid conflict because they feel they have too much to lose and dont risk it. Blackout doesnt change the ‘have too much invested to lose it’ just makes it easier to loser, the natural response would become even less riskier. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_dannels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jack_dannels/32/410958_2.png) [@Jack\_dannels](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jack_dannels)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/320 "2019-07-31T18:36:32Z")
lol where did they get the info this is going to kill it even further. poor new player don’t have a chance with pirate strongholds in nube 0.9 systems and trigs next door there is a lot of station spinning that’s not fun for them now extra tax a sign to me that fewer people are logging on so npc is getting less tax rasing the rates just drive more away lol I want some of what there smoking lol ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/321 "2019-07-31T18:41:19Z")
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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/322 "2019-07-31T18:59:39Z")
You should consider that people are gonna adapt to whatever CCP brings to make life of null-sec citizens worse. And as soon as they adapt then quote “Null became safest place in universe, stagnation and domination of one group…” will return. And all these weekend warriors who recently returned will leave again. (Unless CCP starts to constantly change environment to prevent empire builders from doing their stuff. But then we are basically talking about developers provided content and consumers of this content. The whole idea of sandbox is out of the window at this point.) That’s why i have written about replacing long term players with weekend warriors. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/323 "2019-07-31T19:10:23Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > The whole idea of sandbox is out of the window at this point. This 100%. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/324 "2019-07-31T19:10:51Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > CCP is changing things because nullsec became stagnant and boring. Thew most funny thing is that it haven’t became boring for actual nullseccers. They were doing their stuff, having wars and in general played there. Various never-leave-highsec or wormholers on the other hand were really bored by null-sec space… 😏 Now let’s just hope that CCPs ideas will not make actual null-seccers leave the game. Because these “0.0-sec space is the safest place in the game but for some unrelated reason i have never lived here and i most possibly never will” are very unlike to replace null-sec population. And hunters won’t for obvious reasons. And i havent’ yet heard any success stories about “thanks for blackout our small corp was able to finally settle in 0.0-sec space!” too. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=17)