# CCP Hilmar, CCP Falcon, and CCP Goodfella reveal their plans for an Eve Era of CHAOS in this new interview! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261 "2019-07-26T18:43:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/346 "2019-08-01T07:30:00Z")
No not even close. This is about making Null the second most dangerous space in EvE. I am pointing out that null would have bitched worse if someone took their lolly away. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/347 "2019-08-01T07:31:19Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Olmeca made something like a trillion ISK living of Goons scraps - i call that great success in asymmetrical warfare. Sorry, I dont know what this is. Can you be more specific? ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/348 "2019-08-01T07:32:00Z")
watch ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/349 "2019-08-01T07:34:46Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > By taking care of mass botters and RMTers for good ? And you believe that? Poor innocent child. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/350 "2019-08-01T07:35:08Z")
Oh BB. I didnt even know they were still around. Still I dont think thats really what I would call asymmetrical, but I can see the point. If thats the case, why isnt it done more? ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/351 "2019-08-01T07:37:44Z")
Well he did put a lot of preparation and effort into it - wich distinguishes him from all those people who just want to roll in, ruin some carebears day and be back home in their cozy wormhole before dinner. ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/352 "2019-08-01T07:38:40Z")
Isnt WH already the most dangerous space in Eve? Are there more spaces that are most dangerous needed? They could have added some more space with null characteristics and no local and see how it goes? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/353 "2019-08-01T07:39:15Z")
Then the problem isnt with changing situations, its with people. Though I dont think its WHs you should attack with that, as the loudest voices of hate vs NS come from HS. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/354 "2019-08-01T07:40:10Z")
> [@Milto\_Farroads](#): > > Blackout doesnt change the ‘have too much invested to lose it’ just makes it easier to loser, the natural response would become even less riskier. Finally somebody who gets it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/355 "2019-08-01T07:43:10Z")
And then you are just left with the same problem. Null had too many rewards for not enough risk. Now you can choose Null without local but better rewards or lo-sec with less risk and less rewards. there was no point making another space just so null could continue their gravy soaked theme ride. And yes WH space is the most dangerous which is why I said this is about making null the second most dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/356 "2019-08-01T07:45:34Z")
Well i have no idea who those people are that do nothing but PVP but i guess staging in Jita makes sense when you need to spend PLEX for everything you do? Annyways my point is that there were enough kills without Blackout and as shown by this example even one dedicated guy can achieve a lot if he is willing to put in the necessary effort. “Winning” against an organisation of thousands SHOULD be an achievement ald Olmeca did just that. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/357 "2019-08-01T07:48:38Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Well i have no idea who those people are that do nothing but PVP but i guess staging in Jita makes sense when you need to spend PLEX for everything you do? No idea why you said this. I dont see what it has to do with what we are talking about. > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Annyways my point is that there were enough kills When is there ever enough kills? Like, really? > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > “Winning” against an organisation of thousands SHOULD be an achievement ald Olmeca did just that. No one is talking about “winning”, whatever that is. But thank you, I’ll assume your view is the NS hymn sheet currently. Anyone wanna speak for the other side? Anyone? Bueller? ---
**Author:** ![usag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/usag/32/176794_2.png) [@usag](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/usag)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/358 "2019-08-01T16:20:47Z")
I guess just except what ever right Mr. Marconi. well that’s not how I was raised. I either fight for what I want or I go to where I can get it. I’ll equate this for you to make it easy to understand. since no matter what we say here its not going to change, so un winnable fight. so ill just go do something else. another thing we all get you have your opinion because we have hear your ex jar head “adapt or die” (no offence to actual ex military clear he’s not) as much as the words blackout. we get it, we know where you stand. I think you cant see the basics of the game is to make your own way. which several of us did and now that’s not good enough, so hey I get it, I know when I’m not wanted or needed. so ill just go my merry way. but mark my words it will cycle back to what it was 4 weeks ago. it will happen as a frenzied attempt to bring back lost real life income. USAG OUT!! ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/359 "2019-08-01T19:22:47Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > CCP has finally realized these new players they have been aiming to replace us with simply don’t exist. according to hilmar eve gets 16,000 downloads a week. So that does not seem to be the case. ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/360 "2019-08-01T19:39:04Z")
and how many of this download are uninstalls ? ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/361 "2019-08-01T20:25:32Z")
A lot of them it seems, if the number is even real, though i seriously doubt that. Hellmar likes to lie about these things. For example he will do some crazy steam event like the one that passed a few months ago and say “look! 16,000 people a week!”. The truth is 16k accounts were made, that were 93% alts, and most of them went inactive after the event. But that does not stop him from lying and saying “well see here our numbers showed players coming” even though he knows it was alts. Putting that aside if what he says is true, w hich is highly unlikely, eve could grow, the issue is however that most of those people are undoubtedly pvers. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/362 "2019-08-01T23:08:10Z")
citadel warfare blows compared to pos warfare. no fuel needed for reinforcment timers, 1 week timer and if you miss it or dont have the dps it insta heals so theres no need for anyone to attempt to spend time to repair it like we used to do outpost and pos. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/363 "2019-08-02T05:56:17Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I don’t think so. I see this more as the evolution of a sandbox because after 16 years of players stabilizing their own empires it became apparent that this may be bad for the game because it does not drive conflict. You still missing the point. What is the difference between sandbox and theme-park game? How many rules and restrictions can be added to sandbox until it stops to be sandbox? I agree with the game needs but it needs to be said honestly: sandbox idea is failed and EvE Online is changing towards predictable theme park MMO game. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/364 "2019-08-02T07:09:03Z")
Local is not an additional rule. It’s a change of an existing rule. If the presence of instant Intel local didn’t break the sandbox neither will delayed local. ---
**Author:** ![Scorp\_Majors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorp_majors/32/123732_2.png) [@Scorp\_Majors](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorp_Majors)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/365 "2019-08-02T09:07:51Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > And yes WH space is the most dangerous no, WH is not the most dangerous now. You can close off the WH and be safe, you cannot close off NS. Therefore, NS is now more dangerous and more risky, but with fewer rewards. The obvious choices for Nullseccers is to get less risky (stay docked) or take over somebody’s WH. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=19)