# CCP Hilmar, CCP Falcon, and CCP Goodfella reveal their plans for an Eve Era of CHAOS in this new interview! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261 "2019-07-26T18:43:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/406 "2019-08-03T20:50:41Z")
While all the recent changes have been in my favor, I feel they are ill conceived. There seem to be better ideas out there for a more balanced game. Pulling the rug out from your player base is no way to run a game. The numbers never came back from 2012. **Er ekki allt í lagi heima hjá þér with Himlar and Falcon?** They seem to have lost touch with the game. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/407 "2019-08-04T08:48:53Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > what I right on this forum Dude, go away. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/408 "2019-08-04T09:15:50Z")
No sense of humour. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/409 "2019-08-04T09:17:20Z")
Oh oh Ill go with “What does Mark\_Marconi have?” For $150, please Alex ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/410 "2019-08-04T09:26:58Z")
Ad hominem, how pathetic yet how predictable. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/411 "2019-08-04T09:31:19Z")
You really dont have one, do you? Though that begs the question why you think its a personal attack. Wasnt your reply one too? ---
**Author:** ![Caedor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caedor/32/151508_2.png) [@Caedor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caedor)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/412 "2019-08-04T17:35:25Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > definitely not. CCP needs to keep their mouth shut, disappear in the deep end of Iceland and not mess any further with anything in null sec. And they should be just happy to have a game after this mess Learn to adapt. Learn to play. Stop crying like a 10 year old kid because you can’t krab safe. Eve is not a safe game. Maybe you should check out WoW. I heard they re-released this vanilla version. ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/413 "2019-08-04T22:49:13Z")
Or perhaps CCP is making PVE suck more and more, hoping that pvp people will just say screw it, buy plex and avoid PVE and leave it to the PVE pros who like that part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/414 "2019-08-05T01:39:26Z")
Well, I do honestly believe that is part of the CCP ‘how we make money’ vision: they think players will PvP ‘for fun’, then turn around and pay cash for Plex to convert to ISK to fund their playing. And I’m sure there are even a noticeable number of players who do that. It’s about as close as EVE comes to the idea of ‘gold ammo’ or ‘combat consumables’ that other games use - paying cash to enable your PvP. But given the MMO design of EVE, and the other options in the gaming market today, and the fact that PvP simply isn’t all that available or even interesting in EVE… I believe they need to develop other and better options. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/415 "2019-08-05T06:58:57Z")
i dont remember when but i know a long time ago ccp said if players dont like it they can just leave. ---
**Author:** ![Dan\_4-2-0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dan_4-2-0/32/168913_2.png) [@Dan\_4-2-0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dan_4-2-0)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/416 "2019-08-05T08:19:10Z")
> [@Blaspheme\_Nazareth](#): > > Yea, I’m in favor of making it really dangerous but extremely lucrative. 100% this! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tradulix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tradulix/32/275143_2.png) [@Tradulix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tradulix)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/417 "2019-08-05T09:00:42Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Well, I do honestly believe that is part of the CCP ‘how we make money’ vision: they think players will PvP ‘for fun’, then turn around and pay cash for Plex to convert to ISK to fund their playing. You ain’t got a clue how the Eve economy works. Really. What do you think, where come the PLEXEs from? From PvE drops? … ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/418 "2019-08-05T17:19:27Z")
And that is what they will get. From 30k, the game will go down to 15k or less ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/419 "2019-08-05T17:48:27Z")
Except thats the opposite of what is happening. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/420 "2019-08-06T13:50:05Z")
Oh, Hilmar likes psychology and neuroscience I see! Reply coming soon. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/421 "2019-08-06T18:52:44Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > You still missing the point. What is the difference between sandbox and theme-park game? How many rules and restrictions can be added to sandbox until it stops to be sandbox? There is no limit to the amount. The problem is you and others here are assiging this concept of “sandboxes have no rules” and that is simply not the case. to put it metaphorically, we (as developers / designers) draw a circle and say you can do anything you want here, but dont cross this line (rule). You can suicide gank in high sec, but the rule is, if you do, you die to. You can conquer what you want in null, but the rule is, if you do you have to defend it. You can declare war on whom ever you can, but you have to follow the rules and meet the requirements. etc etc etc. Eve is liter’d with rules. That does not change it from being a sandbox. This leaves us with one of two options. 1. You are resistant to change because its stopping your abuse /exploitation. 2. You have not put much thought into this, and really stop and recognized the rule sets on the game ; probably because you did not need to in the past as you attuned yourself to the games rule sets. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/422 "2019-08-06T18:54:10Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > And that is what they will get. From 30k, the game will go down to 15k or less This is likely because of the abuse in the game. Imagine never being able to leave town in wow, because pvpers can instant kill you. How long do you think the people will stay? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/423 "2019-08-06T20:41:18Z")
If Eve is anything to go by, some would stay for close to 2 decades. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/424 "2019-08-06T21:02:27Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Imagine never being able to leave town in wow, because pvpers can instant kill you. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > never being able > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > able You _are_ able…players who choose to be victims and make themselves unable are the ones hindering themselves. The proof of this are the many players who have adapted to how EvE works over the last 16+ years. However, based on things you’ve said previously it seems unlikely you will see this now. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/425 "2019-08-06T21:03:52Z")
OMG its like if you want to walk, you are FORCED to have legs. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=20) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=22)