# CCP Hilmar, CCP Falcon, and CCP Goodfella reveal their plans for an Eve Era of CHAOS in this new interview! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261 "2019-07-26T18:43:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/781 "2019-08-21T11:36:27Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > TL;DR you have no idea what you’re talking about so you’re going to deflect the question that was asked by several people and blame it on them. When you can answer my questions, we’ll talk about it. Until then the only one that has no idea what they are talking about is you, demonstrated by your inability to answer simplistic questions. This demonstrates you dont know what your talking about and that your just waiting for me to say something about it so you can reply with something chilidish. I dont have time for these sorts of arguments. IF you want, you can join Ramona + his 100 alts on my ever ending ignore list. Like i said, Its stupidity for you to claim that new technology cannot do this faster and better, when eve accomplished 300-500 man battles in its early days. Something many games today are doing by the way and not even trying to build larger scale combat, Why? because they are smart and know the over all game play experience of it is trash. With that afk for 15 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/782 "2019-08-21T11:49:43Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Like i said, Its stupidity for you to claim that new technology cannot do this faster and better I have never made that claim, I merely disputed your claim that new technology makes it easy to host 10000+ players in a single battle by pointing out that the only time that it’s ever been done was using an experimental cloud platform and the assets and players from Eve. You made the claim, not I. A claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, a common maxim between people having a debate, even more so when the claims being made goes against what is commonly accepted; it’s also a pretty important part of the development process for any product, claiming to be able to improve a product by making changes without having anything of substance to back it will get you laughed out of town my friend. Not only have you invoked Hanlon’s Razor by making a claim without evidence, you’re pretty close to invoking Occam’s Razor through failing to produce the evidence required to substantiate your claim that it’s easy to host 10000+ players in a single PvP battle, leaving us the choice of “he has worked for 4 development studios and now runs his own and has evidence of both this and it being easy to do what he claims, but showing it to us would be espionage or something” or “he has no idea what he’s talking about” One is far more likely than the other; especially with your reputation. You need to be careful with all those razors friend, you might end up cutting yourself badly. Alas I cannot give you the response that you truly deserve, for that we’d have to ask @Ralph_King-Griffin for the corpse of Tippia and invoke some arcane rite from the Necronomicon to raise the Logic Bomber. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/783 "2019-08-21T11:57:44Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > Sandbox just means everyone plays in the same sand pit under the same set of rules. Nothing more. I think these rules allow Chess to be call sandbox. Basically any game has set of rules and players playing in the same sand. I’m confused. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/784 "2019-08-21T12:03:09Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > I’m confused. Sandbox means that players create most of the story content in the game. Eve used to be much more of a Sandbox game before things like Incursions and Drifters started happening. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/785 "2019-08-21T12:04:32Z")
So when was the last time you saw 1000 people playing chess on the same board? or are you confused because you cannot understand English? ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/786 "2019-08-21T12:42:57Z")
When you argue with a fool, you only prove there are two. Leave him to drown in his delusions of self-importance. Back on topic: > [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > 9 minutes in: Hillmar keeps referring to the Blue Donut as the Purple Donut and brushes it off with a sheeping laughter as “Did I say purple? I thought I said blue. _giggle_ ”, after having said purple donut at least 3 times. :CCP: And Matterall desperately trying to salvage this. > > 13 minutes in: CCP acknowledges that they screwed up with their development in the last 5 years where they pushed people into capitals with relentless ferocity. > > Somewhere in between: CCP Hillmar wants you to take stress relief medicine when you play EVE to cope with the chaos he envisions. > > 19 minutes in: All of a sudden, the formerly hyped and awesome new NPE is suddenly worse than the old NPE from the early days. (…and all the rest of the summary, I just added the snippet as a reminder) Is ‘chaos’ something EVE actually needs? To me that sounds like CCP as usual has no clue about game design, and is simply going to change things semi-randomly for a while to see which semi-random changes actually do something useful. Kind of like when they set up a crappy, buggy, nearly unplayable event and then say “Gee sorry guys we were just experimenting!”. It’s like they don’t know much about their own game, much less game design overall, and so they are reduced to “poke it with a stick and see what twitches”. Is there something they should be/could be doing other than ‘experimenting with chaos’? ---
**Author:** ![Andre\_Matar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andre_matar/32/296078_2.png) [@Andre\_Matar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andre_Matar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/787 "2019-08-21T13:06:17Z")
People seem to think that limiting the number of players in corps and alliances will have an effect on the size of power blocs. Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/788 "2019-08-21T13:07:39Z")
For the same reason they think that limiting Supers per Corp will work. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/789 "2019-08-21T13:28:47Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Im telling you right now most of us would ban them if we could Funny that CCP’s own metrics don’t gel with yours - Their metrics show more people have multiple accounts/characters than not. So I have to assume you and a few friends = “most of us” There is also the monetary side of it - CCP would have closed its doors many years ago had it implemented a 1 account per IP policy. Multiboxers have been the backbone of Eve for ever. Even “IF” CCP ever find a way to rid us of botters, it will have adverse affects on their bottom line unless they can somehow find a way to improve player retention. Unlikely unless Eve takes the final leap to “Theme-Park” and becomes completely micro-transaction based. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Thats a game related issue, one i dont agree with why ccp did. Imo, there should be special ani-gates that can be dropped anywhere that only freighters can use. Oh please get this, I would so love to move my JF completely risk free. Nothing like risk free game play.,. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Ironically as we talk, I am doing that. Good luck with that, be sure to let me know when you have it up and playable. Considering everything CCP has tried to copy and expand their own game in different forms, the latest being a mobile platform partnership, I wish you luck. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Actually, This has always been a choice. however, putting everything on one toon was smarter in terms of training time (not having to re-train basic/support/defensive/ship stuff again). You do know how long it takes to train up a max hauling alt or a well skilled manufacturing alt? My main character has over 200 mil SP in Ship/PVP skills has been training constantly and has no pve/indy skills. My 'choice" then is as it is now - I choose to play the game the way i want to, as in using the sandbox we play in as i choose, CCP take that ability away and they will be the biggest losers. - PVP’rs already complain about the lack of content, LOL, Imagine if there were 50% less characters online every day - The tears would raise the levels of every ocean in the world. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > **and ccp is ACTIVELY currently trying to reduce** If only there was even a modicum of truth to that - I would quite like only have to sub 1 or 2 accounts per month AND still play the indy side of my game as i choose. Go ahead, remove all complexity from indy - And see online numbers plummet as all the indy guys now only need 1 or 2 characters on one account instead of, in my case 28 characters over 15 accounts. I’d love to keep building caps and supers with a single BPO instead of the 8 or 10 needed now and i’m sure CCP wouldn’t mind all those alt accounts leaving the game.,. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/790 "2019-08-21T13:49:06Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Accomplishing things like 10k battles is very easy with modern technology. Please tell me which game other than EvE has 10k battles? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/791 "2019-08-21T13:51:01Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > So when was the last time you saw 1000 people playing chess on the same board? > > or are you confused because you cannot understand English? Since when does sandbox mean a 1000 people play a game? Or are you confused because you can’t understand English? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/792 "2019-08-21T13:55:06Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Thats actually very easy to accomplish, because eve’s engine is out dated. Accomplishing things like 10k battles is very easy with modern technology. The best part is we dont need to use gimic concepts like time dilation You are still here talking. Either show us your superior game you created or go back to programing. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/793 "2019-08-21T14:12:50Z")
You’ll have to join the queue to actually get a straight answer from him. We anticipate the wait to be a long one, please take a seat and a host will be along shortly with tea and biscuits ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/794 "2019-08-21T14:13:34Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Since when does sandbox mean a 1000 people play a game? Or are you confused because you can’t understand English? I cannot believe you actually wrote that. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/795 "2019-08-21T14:19:05Z")
I cant believe you wrote something other than “Take that, you bad kwabs” ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/796 "2019-08-21T14:23:34Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You’ll have to join the queue to actually get a straight answer from him. I actually hope he succeeds and takes everyone with his mindset over to his game. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/797 "2019-08-21T14:28:44Z")
> [@Rhys\_Seico](#): > > Once a majority of krabbers, blue donut warriors (who never log in unless they’re being summoned by memes to then crush any opposition through sheer numbers) and lazy clowns buggered off (either to HS or preferably another game). Smaller entities with drive, activity, initiative and ambition will start to trickle in. This is nice theory but why these “small guys” are not already in null-sec? People report a lot of space being free already. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/798 "2019-08-21T14:30:03Z")
Wow, 28 freaking characters on over 15 accounts? Well, obviously you must not be using all the character slots on each account because the amount of characters and accounts that you listed doesn’t add up. Regardless of that, why would you need that many anyway? Hell, that’s just way too many. In fact that’s the problem with this game, too many alt accounts and not enough actual players. I played for 2 years on 1 account before I created a 2nd account simply for a Trade alt. I had both accounts subbed for a while but then I just decided it wasn’t worth it and went back with my main. Now I did recently create 2 more accounts for a total of 11 characters on 4 accounts but those are mainly for RP. I have well over 200 mill SP’s and can do almost everything in-game except pilot Cap ships. I don’t need to log in a bunch of other characters to complete a task and if you gotta do that then you’re definitely doing something wrong. And if it’s mostly just for PvP action with you multi-boxing a fleet of characters then you’re part of the social problem in this game. Suppose to work together with other players, not be a single player with an army of alts. ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/799 "2019-08-21T15:57:31Z")
Must be nice to be able to post on the eve forums while “working on an eve killer mmo”. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/800 "2019-08-21T17:52:05Z")
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