# CCP Hilmar, CCP Falcon, and CCP Goodfella reveal their plans for an Eve Era of CHAOS in this new interview! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261 "2019-07-26T18:43:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/104 "2019-07-28T10:13:04Z")
Sounds like capitalism to me. If the countries with those infrastructures didnt suck, they wouldnt be weak, would they? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/105 "2019-07-28T10:18:19Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Because this is what will happen if you ignore a mmog market that is 90% casual… [citation needed] I can make silly claims and empty threats too! > [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Bollocks Please show me which regions in nullsec have dropped themmost in terms of activity. Oh wait, that’s right, its mostly renter regions most know for botting! ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/106 "2019-07-28T10:19:49Z")
actualy they are by gm power trying to move all the mining to hi sec so they can validate the wardec mechanic failure by feeding the miners to the hisec war griefers that could be turned off by the PK switch of not having structures in space. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/107 "2019-07-28T10:25:25Z")
Thats the biggest tinfoil hat Ive seen since Prof A Arkanonn joined the tinfoil collectors club. Its still not forcing anyone to do anything. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/108 "2019-07-28T10:30:38Z")
The only base on wich to undock a rorqual right now is hoping that your enemies are too stupid for chain booshing and don’t bring bombers instead. The most carebearish people got nerved to make it easyer for ‘eliete’ pvpers. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/109 "2019-07-28T10:34:09Z")
And? You mean apart from umbrellasov, right? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/110 "2019-07-28T10:48:42Z")
> [@SeerinDarkness](#): > > actualy they are No, they are not. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/111 "2019-07-28T10:48:47Z")
The umbrella has littel to do with chain booshing or bombing of drones but ofcourse not feeling they can make enough profit without an umbrella is the reason people move under one in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/112 "2019-07-28T10:50:44Z")
And so they arent forced into highsec, or waiting for clear skies. The fact they are afk roqqing and STILL dont feel they get enough for their non-work pretty much underlines the problem. And by them do you mean you? ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/113 "2019-07-28T11:04:31Z")
There is no valid counter play so using rorquals right now is just dumb. The hypocrisy really can’t be lost on anyone. This ■■■■ will make a lot of nullbears leave and the rest will feel even more need to stick together. Soon enough you will have only those alliances left that can keep multiple gatecamps running 24/7 making fun PVP even less likely and leaving even more of nullsec empty. Safety in numbers is allways the logical solution wich can’t be nerved exept by throwing balance completely out of the window. I too would like to PVP without Cap blobs all the time but i don’t think nerving the most active playerbase to the ground does anythin for this goal and will only shrink the number of players in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/114 "2019-07-28T11:12:41Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > This ■■■■ will make a lot of nullbears leave and the rest will feel even more need to stick together. And…? Still not seeing a downside there champ. > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > I too would like to PVP without Cap blobs all the time but i don’t think nerving the most active playerbase to the ground does anythin for this goal and will only shrink the number of players in this game. Its like you dont think thats the whole point. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/115 "2019-07-28T11:15:43Z")
So less people playing the game and paying the developers is a good thing in your mind? I see, you must already be following Hilmars advice about droug use… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/116 "2019-07-28T11:19:25Z")
Less kulaks who add nothing to the game, yes. If you cant defend what you claim, why should you have it? ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/117 "2019-07-28T11:24:04Z")
Because everyone is already whining about not being able to find fight without getting droped by a million Capitals? This only makes it worse. And ‘not adding anything’ is wrong you smug fool. Who makes the ISK you buy for PLEX? Who builds the Ships you buy in Jita? Who gets cought in his Ratting Ship? Not you littel wallet warrior, not you… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/118 "2019-07-28T11:27:25Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Who makes the ISK you buy for PLEX? Not the Kulaks, because they buy PLEX with their isk to churn their accounts. > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Who builds the Ships you buy in Jita? I build my own ships, funnily enough. > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Who gets cought in his Ratting Ship? Not a roq pilot, thats for sure. Any other points youd like to raise, Mr “Im forced” by changes to adapt? ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/119 "2019-07-28T11:41:32Z")
Dude maybe have a look at my killboard before accusing me of having to adapt 🙂 Im way ahead of this nonsense but it annoys me how content creators get shat on. Less people willing to take the risk means less chance of getting good fights. Is your time so worthless that you can afford mining out a Dread in your Procurer or do you fly only T1 frigates? No, i guess you got a gatecamp on your system like a reasonable person to avoid unconsentual PVP while mining - so good for content! And yes, people plexing for ISK ist what brings ISK to the PLEX market. It’s almost like theres a balance of supply and demand going on? I know, wierd… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/120 "2019-07-28T11:50:54Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Dude maybe have a look at my killboard before accusing me of having to adapt Killing much in your roq are you? > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Less people willing to take the risk means less chance of getting good fights. Oh so its not you affected, youre just being altruistic and thinking of others? Lol k The lack of risk in the first place was apparently what this was about, according to CCP. > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > And yes, people plexing for ISK ist what brings ISK to the PLEX market. No, they are bringing Isk to the PLEX market, not the other way around. And the less demand there is, the more chance the drop in PLEX price will be reversed, which is good. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/121 "2019-07-28T11:54:39Z")
Again, how is it less risk when people start locking down systems with gatecamps to see who is coming and going? It only promotes even more risk averse behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/122 "2019-07-28T11:56:10Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > how is it less risk when people start locking down systems with gatecamps to see who is coming and going? So you agree its more risk then, yes? ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/123 "2019-07-28T11:59:21Z")
No? It’s only more effort and the result is even more blue balling. How is that more risk in your reality? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=7)